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  • Jeffrey G.
    Infrequent User
    • April 22, 2016
    • 19

    headlight motor mount

    When I removed the headlight motors on my 64 to have them reconditioned there was no bracket or grommet on either side. Held in place only by the clips. looking underneath the top of the nose with a mirror I saw the grommet screw was broken off in the header. I ordered a mount kit . When I enlarged the screw the threads looked rounded not standard. Are these special screws? Is a tap available?
  • Scott P.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 30, 1992
    • 177

    #2
    Re: headlight motor mount

    Jeffrey, there are nut plates in the header, broken off bolts are always fun but upside down ones take special care. You might find it easier in the long run to remove the grille which on a 63-4 I believe you can do and get to the broken bolt from that way. Take the other bolt out, it should be a 10-24 and they are special bolts which your new mount kit will have. Scott

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    • Jeffrey G.
      Infrequent User
      • April 22, 2016
      • 19

      #3
      Re: headlight motor mount

      Thanks Scott, the screw was broke flush. I drilled it out but got the threads a little. I have a 10-24 tap. Hope it cleans up. The other side did not have a screw.

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      • Danny P.
        Very Frequent User
        • June 30, 2002
        • 334

        #4
        Re: headlight motor mount

        Originally posted by Jeffrey Gordon (62360)
        When I removed the headlight motors on my 64 to have them reconditioned there was no bracket or grommet on either side. Held in place only by the clips. looking underneath the top of the nose with a mirror I saw the grommet screw was broken off in the header. I ordered a mount kit . When I enlarged the screw the threads looked rounded not standard. Are these special screws? Is a tap available?
        Hi Jeff, i just restored my 63 headlight motors there a bracket with a grommet where the ground wire on each threaded housing with bolt and star washer . Dannyz06 442_inPixio.jpg

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        • Jeffrey S.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 31, 2004
          • 133

          #5
          Re: headlight motor mount

          Originally posted by Danny Pantuso (63794)
          Hi Jeff, i just restored my 63 headlight motors there a bracket with a grommet where the ground wire on each threaded housing with bolt and star washer . Danny[ATTACH=CONFIG]115112[/ATTACH]
          Just a heads up / that bolt and star washer needs to be the correct length as if it is too long it will interfere with the motors internals . Jeff

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          • Danny P.
            Very Frequent User
            • June 30, 2002
            • 334

            #6
            Re: headlight motor mount

            Yes there is a proper size bolt to fasten to the housing including the star washer and bracket plate

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            • Tom D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 30, 1981
              • 2120

              #7
              Re: headlight motor mount

              I have 5 63 and 3 63 motors with black plastic where the harness plugs in. Did a rebuild result in the black on mine?

              Now, I will check the 63-64 TIM&JG...

              Also found one of the 10-24 bolts broken.
              https://MichiganNCRS.org
              Michigan Chapter
              Tom Dingman

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              • Joe R.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1976
                • 4547

                #8
                Re: headlight motor mount

                Tom,

                All the original Headlight Motors I have ever seen have a BLACK plastic connector. Don't mean there were not white ones in 63 but most judges will dock you for white ones on a 63. 99.999% Black anyway!

                JR

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                • Harry S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5244

                  #9
                  Re: headlight motor mount

                  July 19th built 63 has black plugs. One dated June one dated July.


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                  • Bob W.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • November 30, 1977
                    • 797

                    #10
                    Re: headlight motor mount

                    Jeff Look at nutserts at fastenal part # 0125623 .

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • January 31, 1997
                      • 6965

                      #11
                      Re: headlight motor mount

                      Danny,

                      I believe the main headlight harness just about out of view at the very top of your photo, and the wires to the headlight motors themselves, both should be positioned above the headlight motor brackets.

                      Gary

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                      • Brian M.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • October 31, 1994
                        • 119

                        #12
                        Re: headlight motor mount

                        Joe,

                        Yes, the 63-64 TIMJG looks for normally black on a 63 and normally white on 64.
                        Regards,
                        Brian McIntyre

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                        • Bob J.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 30, 1977
                          • 712

                          #13
                          Re: headlight motor mount

                          Originally posted by Brian McIntyre (25387)
                          Joe,

                          Yes, the 63-64 TIMJG looks for normally black on a 63 and normally white on 64.
                          For 1963 I thought the change to black happened sometime during Nov. 62, and they remained black after that.
                          My early Oct 62 car has white and they're dated 8-62.
                          Bob Jorjorian

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                          • Joseph S.
                            National Judging Chairman
                            • February 28, 1985
                            • 818

                            #14
                            Re: headlight motor mount

                            Hi Bob, Yes, They did change to White for 64-67. Could you have white early in 63? As always, anything is possible. I have a few early 63 motors here with white also. Not sure if the motors were ever swapped when they were rebuilt or not so I can't confirm any details from them.

                            I'm sure we could find a few more early motors with white connector housings!

                            Regards, Joe

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                            • Bob J.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 30, 1977
                              • 712

                              #15
                              Re: headlight motor mount

                              Hi Joe, they could have been rebuilt but I've owned that car since the mid 70s.
                              Back then, headlight motors usually were fixed by a Chevy dealer since not many owners (around here) were buying publications that ran ads.

                              I'd really like to know when black connectors started.
                              Take Care, Bob J

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