Regional in Arizona 2023

[Ed H.]

Not listed in D/L is it still on.

[Brian D.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

I believe the AZ regional was conceived and okayed after the submission deadline for Driveline printing.
That's why it doesn't appear in this issue.
Vinnie can confirm.

[Vinnie P.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner....will be in the next DL as well as the application...and the application should go live online around December 1st.
Vinnie

[David H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Not listed in D/L is it still on.

Ed

Below is from a Garry Mion, Chairman Arizona Chapter, email to Chapter members:

"At the Texas Regional, approval was given for a Tucson Regional next year, March 23-25. The regional is being hosted jointly by the Northern California and Southern Arizona Chapters. It will be held at Casino Del Sol. Registration is expected to open in December. Things are also looking like the 2025 National will be back in Las Vegas at South Point, but the dates will be September 7-11th. You can hear more about these by visiting the Services-Member News tab on the ncrs.org main page, and clicking on the Oct 28th board meeting video."

Dave

[Michael J.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Will they keep us up to date frequently on the cars registered for judging for the traveling judges?

[Harry S.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Will they keep us up to date frequently on the cars registered for judging for the traveling judges?

They do not have to. But, since others have done it in the past, they might.

[David H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Will they keep us up to date frequently on the cars registered for judging for the traveling judges?

Mike

Your National Team Leader knows. Some TL do keep their teams informed well in advance.

YMMV

Dave

[Michael J.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Right, thanks, that is a much better way to go than to expect the organizers to post things here.

[Mike D.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

It was nice when Florida posted the car count months ago, now we are spoiled and expect it from all regionals. It is helpful for planning our travel plans. Soo, what regionals shall I attend and what are their car counts????? Ha Ha

[Harry S.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

Mike

Your National Team Leader knows. Some TL do keep their teams informed well in advance.

YMMV

Dave

I'm not sure bombarding Dave Brigham with car count emails is a good idea.

[David H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

I'm not sure bombarding Dave Brigham with car count emails is a good idea.

Harry

"National Team Leader" NOT National Judging Chairman

Dave

Some Team Leaders inform their team members of car counts as a matter of course - don't have to ask, TL just informs you.

[Ed H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

The team leaders will tell you what or if they have cars to judge within approximately 30 days in advance those of use that are chasing the 500 level and live on the other side of the world it would be very helpful to know since some of us judge in more than one section C-1, C-4 &amp C-5. We can only accrue a maximum of 20 points per section. I need 3 points in one area so I need to very the sections & vehicles available. Wa Wa Wa.

[David H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

... I'm gonna' start lobbing for a "Purple Hat". ...

Dave

Didn't know you were so fashion conscious.

Dave

[Harry S.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

I do believe that Ed has three red hats, so he could get a double purple!

[Patrick H.]

Re: Regional in Arizona 2023

You two missed my point, which is my contempt for the 5-Star program. Without car owners, there is no need for judges, much less judges chasing after recognition for mere "participation". (The 100 points after level 400). Level 400 judges probably accrued many of their 400 points in a specific division, area, and even year. An NTL is forced by the 20 points per area requirement to select judges that may have little or no experience in up to four areas. This lack of proficiency is detrimental to consistency and quality of results in flight judging. Many Level 400s have continued to judge in their areas of proficiency, disregarding the 500 program. My observation has been that some of the "chasers of 500" are not dedicated to providing the best they are capable of because they are "ok" with producing mediocre results because they are required to participate in areas they are not proficient in.

The 5-Star program puts the cart in front of the horse. Without car owners, there in no need for judges. The current configuration of the 5-Star program is detrimental to the interests of the car owners because some of their judges may not "be the best available". Especially at National events. IMO, the 5-Star program needs some serious revisions.

Dave,

The 5 Star program is for Bowtie cars.
The 500 level judging program is what you're describing.

PH