Throw out bearing

[Jack J.]

Seeking recommendations with regards to the following throw out bearing manufacturers: SKF, Luk, National, Sachs. These bearings are available through Rockauto. The Sachs bearing I did purchase but I have reservations about using it for the following reasons: NO SACHS name on the bearing and the number (8099 D2109) on it, does not correspond to anything on the box it came in or the Rockauto part number. The box did say made in CHINA. Opinions appreciated. Thank you, Jack Jagello

[Terry D.]

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I've had good luck with Luk clutch parts, They were oem on a lot of GM cars

[Stephen L.]

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Seeking recommendations with regards to the following throw out bearing manufacturers: SKF, Luk, National, Sachs. These bearings are available through Rockauto. The Sachs bearing I did purchase but I have reservations about using it for the following reasons: NO SACHS name on the bearing and the number (8099 D2109) on it, does not correspond to anything on the box it came in or the Rockauto part number. The box did say made in CHINA. Opinions appreciated. Thank you, Jack Jagello

Send it back to Rock Auto for a replacement or refund. Maybe a bearing from NAPA (or) would be better as you can "feel" it before purchase.....

[Joe L.]

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I've had good luck with Luk clutch parts, They were oem on a lot of GM cars

Terry-----


The LUK bearing uses a "composite" rear section. It might be OK but I don't like it.

I would recommend using either the National bearing or, better yet, GM #19245400 aka ACDelco # CT24KVAL.

[Jack J.]

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Terry-----


The LUK bearing uses a "composite" rear section. It might be OK but I don't like it.

I would recommend using either the National bearing or, better yet, GM #19245400 aka ACDelco # CT24KVAL.

[Harry S.]

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I went with National on the last change. No problems, but how do I have problems with 750 miles a year.......?

[Joe L.]

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Joe, I appreciate yours as well as the others input/opinion. I can’t help but wonder just WHO, now makes the GM/ACDelco throw out bearings, since we all know GM doesn’t do much in-house today. Thanks, Jack J.

Jack-------


Yes, most GM in-house parts manufacturing ceased quite awhile ago. However, this particular part is an OEM quality part. So, regardless of who makes it, it will be OEM quality. It's even possible that it's the same part sold under other brands but there's little to know that, for sure. Aftermarket parts MAY BE of OEM quality or they may not. China has many Tier 1 automotive parts suppliers that supply to the OEM. In fact, there are MANY of these on brand new cars, including Corvettes. But, China also has many "lesser than Tier 1 suppliers" that produce for the aftermarket.

Think everything made in China is junk? What do you think of an iPhone?

[Jack J.]

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Jack-------


Yes, most GM in-house parts manufacturing ceased quite awhile ago. However, this particular part is an OEM quality part. So, regardless of who makes it, it will be OEM quality. It's even possible that it's the same part sold under other brands but there's little to know that, for sure. Aftermarket parts MAY BE of OEM quality or they may not. China has many Tier 1 automotive parts suppliers that supply to the OEM. In fact, there are MANY of these on brand new cars, including Corvettes. But, China also has many "lesser than Tier 1 suppliers" that produce for the aftermarket.

Think everything made in China is junk? What do you think of an iPhone?

Joe, from my original post, I ordered the SACHS bearing assuming a German company making a T.O. In Germany. However, no SACHS name on the part and no meaningful part number BUT the box did say Made In China.

[Joe L.]

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Joe, from my original post, I ordered the SACHS bearing assuming a German company making a T.O. In Germany. However, no SACHS name on the part and no meaningful part number BUT the box did say Made In China.

Jack-----


Sachs make parts for the OEM and parts for the aftermarket. They are not necessarily the same although for certain items they may be. In this case, I very much doubt that the aftermarket piece is the same as OEM.

By the way, was the bearing supplied in a FACTORY SEALED box? Any grease or fingerprint marks on the box? If that's how you got it, there's always the possibility you got the "victim" of a "switcheroo" and return. I've had this occur before. Someone buys a certain brand name part, uses it, puts an off-brand product in the box and returns it for credit. The retailer then puts the part back in stock and someone else gets it. I even had this happen once with GM parts at a GM dealer. To wit, I bought several Muncie gears. When I got home, opened the boxes and inspected them, they were COMPLETELY worn out gears. Someone had purchased the GM gears, used them, put the worn out gears in the boxes, and, apparently, returned them for credit!

[Tim S.]

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National is a traditional steel TOB. Even when I buy my clutches from NAPA (Luk), I still buy the TOB from another parts store in National

[Richard M.]

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Jack-----


Sachs make parts for the OEM and parts for the aftermarket. They are not necessarily the same although for certain items they may be. In this case, I very much doubt that the aftermarket piece is the same as OEM.

By the way, was the bearing supplied in a FACTORY SEALED box? Any grease or fingerprint marks on the box? If that's how you got it, there's always the possibility you got the "victim" of a "switcheroo" and return. I've had this occur before. Someone buys a certain brand name part, uses it, puts an off-brand product in the box and returns it for credit. The retailer then puts the part back in stock and someone else gets it. I even had this happen once with GM parts at a GM dealer. To wit, I bought several Muncie gears. When I got home, opened the boxes and inspected them, they were COMPLETELY worn out gears. Someone had purchased the GM gears, used them, put the worn out gears in the boxes, and, apparently, returned them for credit!

Joe, I once ordered a heavy automotive item from Amazon years ago.

When I opened the box a red masonry brick was in it. Tried to return it. Never got my money back. Never again.

Rich
P.S. I still have the brick. Now every time I open a box, I video it.

[Jack J.]

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Jack-----


Sachs make parts for the OEM and parts for the aftermarket. They are not necessarily the same although for certain items they may be. In this case, I very much doubt that the aftermarket piece is the same as OEM.

By the way, was the bearing supplied in a FACTORY SEALED box? Any grease or fingerprint marks on the box? If that's how you got it, there's always the possibility you got the "victim" of a "switcheroo" and return. I've had this occur before. Someone buys a certain brand name part, uses it, puts an off-brand product in the box and returns it for credit. The retailer then puts the part back in stock and someone else gets it. I even had this happen once with GM parts at a GM dealer. To wit, I bought several Muncie gears. When I got home, opened the boxes and inspected them, they were COMPLETELY worn out gears. Someone had purchased the GM gears, used them, put the worn out gears in the boxes, and, apparently, returned them for credit!

Joe, the box had no seal of any kind. Part (TOB) was in a clear crisp plastic bag with no markings. This evening I ordered the National TOB and the Sachs will be going back tomorrow. Thank you all, Jack J.

[Richard G.]

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Might try this one. It's says it's the GM bearing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304572938045?hash=item46e9f6373d:g:e-0AAOSwSgFd2ITx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoA%2Bt%2B4BTIyahreZFuMCZs%2BcrJueHBSRPn%2Fofk%2B7IimUbLiIjSPVxg8yjSnCTJQJucI%2FnAoWk4Vsj1BAsdg%2FPGu13TPlO1CFqvzQseT%2Fs2EJdQorQIaom%2BUCqOWMQHDGtFa6flaJ3JU3vbRVHo4dZXxu9bApiDSxTB%2FO%2Fkv7CqaZTJInZEa8kYEW3D6tTqyeRjXLaOe5nRAK9HvClsFv3018%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5LRmMznYA

Rick

[Joe L.]

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Might try this one. It's says it's the GM bearing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304572938045?hash=item46e9f6373d:g:e-0AAOSwSgFd2ITx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoA%2Bt%2B4BTIyahreZFuMCZs%2BcrJueHBSRPn%2Fofk%2B7IimUbLiIjSPVxg8yjSnCTJQJucI%2FnAoWk4Vsj1BAsdg%2FPGu13TPlO1CFqvzQseT%2Fs2EJdQorQIaom%2BUCqOWMQHDGtFa6flaJ3JU3vbRVHo4dZXxu9bApiDSxTB%2FO%2Fkv7CqaZTJInZEa8kYEW3D6tTqyeRjXLaOe5nRAK9HvClsFv3018%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5LRmMznYA

Rick

Rick------


Yes, that's the GM bearing that's still available although it may be the same as National. However, the GM bearing can be bought for considerably less than the price this seller id offering it at.

[Jack J.]

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Joe, the box had no seal of any kind. Part (TOB) was in a clear crisp plastic bag with no markings. This evening I ordered the National TOB and the Sachs will be going back tomorrow. Thank you all, Jack J.