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  • Michael L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 15, 2006
    • 1424

    Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

  • Mark M.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 21, 2008
    • 344

    #2
    Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

    Michael disconnect the two large hoses front and rear on the large vacuum can that opens the door. You can then pull it open easily with your hands.

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    • Jeffrey S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1988
      • 1902

      #3
      Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

      Here's the "official"procedure as stated on page 17 of the owner's manual:
      "Raise hood and remove the plug from the rear of the vacuum cylinder [the photo shows the plug removed from the "front" of the cylinder. I think this is a typo] then reach through the hole in the cylinder with a screwdriver and push the piston until the cover panel opens fully and the linkage contacts the wiper microswitch." I'm sure Mark is right that the door can be opened as he suggests I just worry about forcing something and damaging the door or the mechanism. Maybe that's not a worry.
      Jeff

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      • Michael L.
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        • December 15, 2006
        • 1424

        #4

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        • Mike E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 28, 1975
          • 5153

          #5
          Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

          Push in to open the door. Or apply vacuum to the hose that connects to the firewall side of the actuator.

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15646

            #6
            Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

            The wiper door vacuum actuator can be moved without disconnecting the hoses by removing the rubber plug on the front of the actuator. Be careful in removing the rubber plug. 50 year old rubber is not very pliable. I would not use a screwdriver to push on the diaphragm. The center of the diaphragm has a metal piece, and that is what you want to push on. I can do it using my finger, and if at all possible I suggest using that. If one slips off that metal center piece one will pierce the rubber diaphragm and a new actuator will be in your future. Using a digit allows one to feel the metal center and to keep pressure on that metal portion. Once the actuator is moved enough to raise the wiper door an inch or so one can lift and pull on the wiper door to assist in completely opening the door. Be careful not to pull on just the stainless trim closest to the windshield. Pulling that trim off will also help you to have a bad day.
            Terry

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            • James G.
              Very Frequent User
              • August 22, 2018
              • 819

              #7
              Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

              Terry opened mine at the chapter show in Atlanta EXACTLY as he stated.

              BTW Thanks for showing me that.
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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15646

                #8
                Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

                Originally posted by James Groome (65120)
                Terry opened mine at the chapter show in Atlanta EXACTLY as he stated.

                BTW Thanks for showing me that.
                I learned about these kinds of operations the hard way -- out of necessity. I learned about manually raising the headlights the same way. Necessity IS the mother of invention.

                You are welcome James.
                Terry

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                • Bob I.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 9, 2006
                  • 265

                  #9
                  Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

                  Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                  Push in to open the door. Or apply vacuum to the hose that connects to the firewall side of the actuator.

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                  • Michael L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 15, 2006
                    • 1424

                    #10
                    Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

                    OK I will try what Terry suggests. I have had all the components re-built and they have worked previously, but I paused working on the car for about 18 months while I finished a couple of other projects. I'm concerned the cannister may be frozen because I already applied vacuum to the firewall side with my mightyvac and it didn't budge. It was also real hard to build vacuum and the vacuum leaked off fairly quickly. I also tried grabbing the actuator rod and moving it but it still didn't budge. That's why I'm thinking it might be frozen. At the very least I'm concerned the vacuum seal may be bad already as it wouldn't hold vacuum.

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                    • Michael L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 15, 2006
                      • 1424

                      #11
                      Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

                      OK so I pulled the front plug and attempted to push the plunger in with my finger and it wouldn't budge. I removed the actuator canister and the door then opened easily. As I had mentioned, although the actuator was rebuilt by Bod Demmel a couple of years ago and worked fine previously, it hasn't moved in 18 mo as the car sat. After the canister was out I used a long 3/8" socket extension and pushed on the plunger and with considerable force it finally broke free and started moving. I then moved it in and out numerous times and it started to get a little looser but it's still fairly stiff. There's no doubt it holds good vacuum though as when it moves in either direction I get a gush of air out. I'm thinking it would help if I could spray some lubricant in, but I don't won't to ruin the seals or anything. Any idea what I could use to keep this thing moving freely?

                      Mike

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11698

                        #12
                        Re: Easiest way to open and keep open the WSW door on 69 with engine off

                        Originally posted by Michael Leonard (46610)
                        OK so I pulled the front plug and attempted to push the plunger in with my finger and it wouldn't budge. I removed the actuator canister and the door then opened easily. As I had mentioned, although the actuator was rebuilt by Bod Demmel a couple of years ago and worked fine previously, it hasn't moved in 18 mo as the car sat. After the canister was out I used a long 3/8" socket extension and pushed on the plunger and with considerable force it finally broke free and started moving. I then moved it in and out numerous times and it started to get a little looser but it's still fairly stiff. There's no doubt it holds good vacuum though as when it moves in either direction I get a gush of air out. I'm thinking it would help if I could spray some lubricant in, but I don't won't to ruin the seals or anything. Any idea what I could use to keep this thing moving freely?

                        Mike
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