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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5132

    Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

    The first two pictures are of a January 73 fan blade. Are the "blunted" tips correct? If so, why did
    GM change them after 1972 and the pointed tips. (second two pictures)
    fan blade 73 454 ac (1).jpgfan blade 73 454 ac (2).jpgfan blade (1).jpgfan blade (2).jpg
  • Mark F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1998
    • 1458

    #2
    Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

    Noise reduction based on tip design??

    thx,
    Mark

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    • Mike E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 28, 1975
      • 5132

      #3
      Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

      So, is the blunted tip correct for 73?
      Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
      Noise reduction based on tip design??

      https://www.caeses.com/blog/2019/axi...ometry-models/

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      • Mark F.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1998
        • 1458

        #4
        Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

        Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
        So, is the blunted tip correct for 73?
        I don't know - I was only speculating on your "why did GM change them after 1972 and the pointed tips" part of the question...
        thx,
        Mark

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        • Tom L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • October 17, 2006
          • 1439

          #5
          Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

          I'm not to sure any of the fans should have a "blunted" tip. Before I found a correctly dated fan for my '72 I had a '73 fan. Had the same tips that my '72 fan has. I've seen a number of fans with tips that have been trimmed or bent to prevent interference though.

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          • Bill B.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 1, 2016
            • 303

            #6
            Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

            Mike,

            The Summer edition of the Restorer (Vol 48, #1) has an outstanding article on '53 - '82 Radiator Fans by Joe Tripoli. He has several tables of part #s and photos of configs.

            According to the article, the P/N you show is correct for your BB w/ A/C, however, outer blade shape is indicated to be pointed finger.
            Last edited by Bill B.; December 16, 2021, 04:07 PM. Reason: added info
            Bill Bertelli
            Northeast and Carolinas Chapters Member
            '70 Resto Mod LT-1 w/ partial '70 ZR-1 drivetrain

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            • Robert Y.
              Expired
              • January 10, 2020
              • 25

              #7
              Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

              Mike, my '73 454 with ac that was built on Jan. 31,1973 has the fan that is shown in pics 3&4. I don't know why they were changed from the '72

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              • John S.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 15, 2015
                • 505

                #8
                1973 L82 M21 4 Speed, very original and well documented driver/survivor
                NW Chapter Member, 2016 Bend Regional Top Flight
                73/74 TIM&JG 3rd Edition Revision Team Member

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                • Owen L.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • September 30, 1991
                  • 829

                  #9
                  Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                  Originally posted by John Sigmund (61302)
                  Regarding the years of it’s application, Joe’s information lists it as the same fan for ‘71, ‘72 and 1973 w/LS4 and C60. While I do not have a 71/72 TIM&JG, I do have a ‘72 AIM and the illustration confirms the 3992095 fan in that application and it shows the pointed tips.
                  Yes, the '72 LS-5 with AC has the pointed blade 3992095.

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                  • Tom L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • October 17, 2006
                    • 1439

                    #10
                    Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                    This style fan was also used on '70 454 w/ a/c. Blades are the same pointed tips but the bolt circle is different. How do I know?? Was overzealous and did not check and bought one. When I realized I had made the mistake I was embarrassed. Spent all that $$ for the wrong part. Didn't tell the wife and I let it sit in the box in my basement for over a year before I told her.

                    Ultimately I did find a good home for it. Perhaps a '70 owner will chime in and confirm. In my experience I feel VERY comfortable saying that all years using this fan were supposed to have the tips. But many have been modified.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • January 31, 1988
                      • 43191

                      #11
                      Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                      Originally posted by Tom Larsen (46337)
                      This style fan was also used on '70 454 w/ a/c. Blades are the same pointed tips but the bolt circle is different. How do I know?? Was overzealous and did not check and bought one. When I realized I had made the mistake I was embarrassed. Spent all that $$ for the wrong part. Didn't tell the wife and I let it sit in the box in my basement for over a year before I told her.

                      Ultimately I did find a good home for it. Perhaps a '70 owner will chime in and confirm. In my experience I feel VERY comfortable saying that all years using this fan were supposed to have the tips. But many have been modified.

                      Tom------


                      I don't think the configuration of the blades ever changed at least as far as GM was concerned.

                      There were actually THREE different part numbers. For 1970 only the original part number was GM #3969926 and, beginning late in 1970, GM #3993889. I don't know what the difference was between these two parts but I don't think tip configuration had anything to do with it. For 1971-73 the only part number was GM #3992095.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Tom L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • October 17, 2006
                        • 1439

                        #12
                        Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                        Joe, I agree completely on the blade configuration and I am aware that there were 3 part numbers. The 926 and 889 both had the smaller bolt circle for the '70 water pump and the 095 had the larger.

                        Just for kicks I searched for fans on sale. Below is a pic of a 095 fan currently for sale on ebay (not mine). If you zoom in you can see that the tips are bent over, away from the shroud if installed. likely to prevent them from touching the shroud. I think the seller might have not provided a side view to hide that. It is repairable though


                        095 fan.jpg

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • January 31, 1988
                          • 43191

                          #13
                          Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                          Originally posted by Tom Larsen (46337)
                          Joe, I agree completely on the blade configuration and I am aware that there were 3 part numbers. The 926 and 889 both had the smaller bolt circle for the '70 water pump and the 095 had the larger.

                          Just for kicks I searched for fans on sale. Below is a pic of a 095 fan currently for sale on ebay (not mine). If you zoom in you can see that the tips are bent over, away from the shroud if installed. likely to prevent them from touching the shroud. I think the seller might have not provided a side view to hide that. It is repairable though


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                          Tom------


                          Yes, the only difference between the 3969926/3993889 and the 3992095 is the fan clutch bolt circle and the size of the center hole. I just don't know what the difference was between the 3969926 and 3993889.

                          It MIGHT BE that the 3969926 and 3993889 used different blade material. One might have been steel and the other aluminum and/or other differences.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Tom L.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • October 17, 2006
                            • 1439

                            #14
                            Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                            I've had the 889 in my hands, definitely aluminum. Can't comment on the 926. Maybe there's someone with the 926

                            blade that has a magnet. Would put this to bed. For now...

                            Throwing it out there. Anyone have one of these fans that might be wrecked? It's a curiosity.

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                            • Mark E.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • March 31, 1993
                              • 4497

                              #15
                              Re: Configuration of fan blade tip 71-72 vs. 73, 454 with AC

                              Did 1974 LS4 C60 not use the 095?
                              Mark Edmondson
                              Dallas, Texas
                              Texas Chapter

                              1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                              1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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