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  • David L.
    Expired
    • July 31, 1980
    • 3310

    Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

    In my 40-year collection I have five 7/16"-20 X 2 1/4" harmonic balancer bolts, GM # 3815933, along with the large washer (GM # 3739422) and external tooth lock washer that I bought at various swap meets. Three of these bolts have a "TR" marking with 6 radial line segments (grade 8) each with a 9-tooth external lock washer (possibly GM # 131718 as shown in the 1963 and 1964 Corvette AIM (Sections L-75,L-76, L84) . The other two harmonic balancer bolts have a "C" marking and a 12-tooth external lock washer (possibly GM # 138494 as shown in the 1965 Corvette AIM (UPC L76, Sheet 2). The change from the 131718 L/W to the 138494 L/W is listed in the 1965 revision records dated 2-23-65.

    One of the large washers (GM # 3739422) is stamped with a "double S" (one "S" stamped over another "S").

    I believe that the "TR" bolt was used on 1963 Corvettes with L-75, L-7 6, and L-84 engines.

    My question: Were the "TR" harmonic balancer bolts used on all 1963-1967 Corvette with high H.P. engines?

    Dave



  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2038

    #2
    Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

    Can only verify the "TR" was used on my Mar64 FI car.

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    • Edward J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 15, 2008
      • 6940

      #3
      Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

      Dave, My 63 has a TR bolt and has drilled holes through the head. my ia a SHP motor.
      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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      • David L.
        Expired
        • July 31, 1980
        • 3310

        #4
        Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

        I have noticed that some "TR" bolts had the hole drilled thru the head and some did not. The NOS 3815933 bolt from the dealer that I bought years ago marked "LE" also had the drilled hole. What is the purpose of the hole?

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 1, 1997
          • 7018

          #5
          Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

          David,

          Safety wire?

          Gary

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1976
            • 4550

            #6
            Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

            Regarding Bolts GM specifications for that and other bolts came from many sources. Many included TR, WB, AP and many others. As long as the suppliers met the minimum specifications GM bolts changed as supplies ran out and orders were filled by other suppliers. Looks like TR met those specifications and some had holes and some didn't.

            JR

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            • John D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 1, 1979
              • 5507

              #7
              Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

              Like David said the over the counter bolts had LE. When I new my 63 FI car was going to be judged I only had a TR bolt with no hole drilled thru it.
              A local machine shop refused to drill it as he said the bolt was case hardened.
              So I sent it to Don Baker and he drilled it. I did not know the bolt came two ways Joe.

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              • Alan D.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 1, 2005
                • 2038

                #8
                Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                Finally got out to look at car, The "TR" bolt does have the hole - it's original in a Mar64 FI car
                Did not think it had the hole so got surprised.

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                • Rich P.
                  Expired
                  • January 12, 2009
                  • 1361

                  #9
                  Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                  My VERY first attempt at a YouTube video addresses this.

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 1, 1997
                    • 7018

                    #10
                    Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                    Rich,

                    Very cool!

                    Gary

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                    • Chris H.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 1, 2000
                      • 837

                      #11
                      Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                      Rich,very informative. Nicely done.
                      1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                      • Joe R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1976
                        • 4550

                        #12
                        Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                        Originally posted by Rich Pasqualone (49858)
                        My VERY first attempt at a YouTube video addresses this.

                        https://youtu.be/XxurqdJibA0
                        Each NCRS member should be required to view this video or sell their Corvette!
                        It answers the age old statement (I know my Corvette is Original) cause I'm the 6+ owner!

                        Thanks Rich,

                        JR

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                        • Mark F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1998
                          • 1518

                          #13
                          Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                          Interesting video.

                          But...
                          1. What is the hole for if it is not for a safety wire?
                          2. If it is for a safety wire, what is the wire wired to after it goes thru the "safety hole"?
                          3. If it's not for a wire, how is a hole in a bolt functioning as a safety feature?
                          thx,
                          Mark

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                          • David L.
                            Expired
                            • July 31, 1980
                            • 3310

                            #14
                            Re: Question about an Original Harmonic Balancer Bolts with "TR" marking

                            I have the same questions as Mark.
                            I have 6 original Harmonic balancer bolts with various marking on the bolt heads but none have the hole for the safety wire. Most of the large
                            1 3/4" diameter washers are not stamped except for 2 of them that are shown in the photo below. The washer on the left has the "S" stamped on it while the one on the right has the "MCS" stamping.
                            BTW, very interesting video.
                            Dave

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 7018

                              #15
                              most of the original production-line balancer bolts had a safety-wire hole, and so did the Service replacements, until about 20 years ago.

                              Gary

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