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  • Mark H.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1998
    • 384

    327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

    When I disassembled by '64 engine (L75), there was no lower dipstick tube installed, only the upper. I'm doing reassembly now and the fit is very loose in the block. I did some reading, and realized that there is supposed to be lower tube installed first. My understanding was that you drop the lower tube in the hole in the block, then install the upper tube with the special tool.

    Sounds easy, but there is no way the upper tube fits inside the lower tube, or vis versa. I purchased a lower tube first. Drops in the hole in the block with no problem, flange at the top stops it from dropping all the way through the hole. My exisiting upper tube also fit in the hole in the block - very loosely - so my hope was it would fit inside the lower tube and expand things somehow to a tight fit. No dice. Not even close. So I bought a new upper tube. This would have a tight interference fit with the hole in the block, and the put-it-in-the-freezer-first advice makes total sense if the lower tube is abandoned. But I don't see any way to install them both using the hole in the block. What am I missing? How does the lower tube get installed?

    Thanks!
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3613

    #2
    Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

    Mark,
    The lower tube goes into the hole and bottoms out approximately 1" below the top of the hole in the block. The upper tube is then inserted into the same hole and bottoms out on top of the flange of the lower tube. Be sure your new upper tube has the correct bend in it so that it fits closely to the exhaust manifold when installed. Additionally, if the upper tube is loose (as you say) a little RTV slathered on the base, before install, should hold it tightly enough.
    Note: The upper tube is NOT supposed to fit inside the lower tube...it simply butts up against it.
    Last edited by Leif A.; May 20, 2021, 04:12 PM.
    Leif
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    • Larry M.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 31, 1991
      • 2688

      #3
      Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

      As far as I can remember, the lower tube installs from the bottom of the block with the pan removed.

      Larry

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      • Mark H.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 31, 1998
        • 384

        #4
        Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

        Originally posted by Larry Mulder (20401)
        As far as I can remember, the lower tube installs from the bottom of the block with the pan removed.
        Well, that is clearly my problem. Thanks very much for setting me straight. Which end goes into the block- the flanged end or the straight end?

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        • Ray G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1986
          • 1187

          #5
          Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

          Hello;
          Leif Anderson instructions are correct. You may need to file or grind a slight taper on the upper tube to get it started.
          The installation tool you mention is Kent-Moore. Think there are pictures of it in Chevrolet service manuals.

          Ray
          And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
          I hope you dance


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          • Mark H.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 1998
            • 384

            #6
            Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

            Originally posted by Ray Geiger (9992)
            Hello;
            Leif Anderson instructions are correct. You may need to file or grind a slight taper on the upper tube to get it started.
            The installation tool you mention is Kent-Moore. Think there are pictures of it in Chevrolet service manuals.

            Ray
            Sorry to be dense. Are you saying the lower tube goes in from the top (outside the block) or bottom (inside the pan)?

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            • Larry M.
              Expired
              • November 30, 1986
              • 541

              #7
              Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

              The lower tube goes in first from the top. It cannot be correctly installed from the bottom.

              Then the upper tube goes in from the top, butting up against the flange on top of the lower tube.

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              • Mark H.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 31, 1998
                • 384

                #8
                Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                Originally posted by Larry Maher (10731)
                The lower tube goes in first from the top. It cannot be correctly installed from the bottom.

                Then the upper tube goes in from the top, butting up against the flange on top of the lower tube.

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                • Leif A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1997
                  • 3613

                  #9
                  Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                  There is a ridge machined in the block that will stop the lower tube in place...that is what the upper flange is for on the lower tube.
                  Last edited by Leif A.; May 21, 2021, 06:55 AM.
                  Leif
                  '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                  Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                  • Mark H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1998
                    • 384

                    #10
                    Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                    Thank you all for the help!

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                    • Bill S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 30, 2002
                      • 154

                      #11
                      Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                      I have been chasing this elusive Kent Moore Chevrolet Small Block Oil Dip Stick Tube Installer tool for quite some time. Does anyone have the KM tool number by chance? Thank you
                      Bill Strobel
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                      • Mark H.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 31, 1998
                        • 384

                        #12
                        Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                        Originally posted by Bill Strobel (37873)
                        I have been chasing this elusive Kent Moore Chevrolet Small Block Oil Dip Stick Tube Installer tool for quite some time. Does anyone have the KM tool number by chance? Thank you
                        https://www.classicchevy.com/chevy-o...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

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                        • Larry M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • December 31, 1991
                          • 2688

                          #13
                          Re: 327 Upper and Lower Dipstick Tubes

                          Originally posted by Larry Mulder (20401)
                          As far as I can remember, the lower tube installs from the bottom of the block with the pan removed.

                          Larry
                          Mark:

                          Sorry I gave you some wrong advice. My memory fades from time to time .

                          What I was remembering was trying to get a small broken piece of the UPPER tube out..........which required removing the pan and driving the LOWER tube out of the block taking the broken piece with it. A long bolt was used to fit inside the lower tube to give it more rigidity during this extraction (hammering) process.

                          Then both tubes are installed from the top of the block.........as others have said.

                          Larry

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