Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

[Martin T.]

[David H.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

I am in need of new white leather seat covers for my 65. Al Knoch has bright white leather in stock but they would need to special order the white currently on the seats. .... I don’t remember the original white leather used in 64/65 but doubt it was “bright”.

Martin

What is the interior code on your Trim Tag?

Standard Deduction Guideline #7 covers ALTERED CARS. (See link below, Section 4 - #7). Changes in interior color or fabric would generate a 50% deduction. Changes in interior color and fabric would generate a 100% deduction.

For a definitive answer, contact 1965 National Team Leader K.C. Strawmyre (kcsvpr@gmail.com).

Dave

http://ncrsnm.com/pdf/NCRS_2010_%20Std%20Ded_Sections3-4.pdf

[Martin T.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Dave, Thank you for your response. The original interior color is white. The question I have is the brightness of the white. Currently, Al Knoch is stocked with a bright white. The brightness is not the same as the original leather used. Would there be a point deduct for the intensity of the white?

[Joe R.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

In a case like this just take what you can get! A few points should not effect the difference between a top flight and second flight! If a few points get in the way you should just fix what you can and have a good enough Corvette that a few points won't matter anyway!

JR

[Harry S.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Seats, back & trim are worth 24 points. If a judge splits 20 for the seats and 4 for the back and trim. The hit out of CDCIF is the F (finish) or 20% of 20 points. So figure its around a 4 point hit. You still have 4506 points to play with.

[David H.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Dave, Thank you for your response. The original interior color is white. The question I have is the brightness of the white. Currently, Al Knoch is stocked with a bright white. The brightness is not the same as the original leather used. Would there be a point deduct for the intensity of the white?

Martin

"... The brightness is not the same ..." is why I recommend you contact 1965 Team Leader.

If current Al Knoch leather is considered to be a color change, then judging is NOT based on C.D.C.I.F. Judging, in this case, will be based on Standard Deduction #7 - Altered Cars -- a 50% deduction.

If Al Knoch leather is NOT considered to be a color change, then judging would be based on C.D.C.I.F. Matrix judging. Given all other matrix elements ( C.D.C.I.) have no issues, you might have a Finish "F" - color - issue -- a 20% deduction.

Contact K.C. for a definitive answer.

Dave

[Michael J.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

WhiteSeats.jpgI'm really not sure what bright white leather looks like vs. what might be more original. Here is a shot of my '64 that went through Nationals a couple of years ago with no deductions.....

[Jaime G.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Martin,
If 4 points or so are important to you, then dont get the seat covers.
More important, is the appearance of the seat finish acceptable to you.
If it is, proceed with your refresh restoration. If not, order what you wish
to have. Judging should not be the determining factor in my opinion but
rather what you want for your car. The brightness should not be a major
issue unless it makes the seats appear not white which would be a color
change. Best of luck.

[Reba W.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Isn't it quite possible that the 55-year-old seats have aged (like a lot of us) until they do not appear as they once did?

[Michael J.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

whiteinterior.jpg

Isn't it quite possible that the 55-year-old seats have aged (like a lot of us) until they do not appear as they once did?

Absolutely! Here is a photo of my '64's original white leather seats after being pulled out of a barn after sitting for decades. Compare that to the one I posted above of the restored seats from Al Knoch.....

[Martin T.]

Re: Interior leather brightness influence upon NCRS points

Harry, I don’t have an objection to bright white if that was the original sheen. So much time has been spent on the car that I did not want to go in a direction that would compromise efforts already made. The car is one of the first ten. Those first cars were not production nor pilot line (as the pilot line cars were used to check for fluidity in the production process for the new model year, utilizing the final production features). The first ten were made to approximate the intended production styling but did not incorporate all the production features. In this light, I would like to go for originality and minimum point loss at judging.