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  • Gary B.
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    • February 1, 1997
    • 7018

    #46
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    • Gary B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 1, 1997
      • 7018

      #47
      Re: C2 ground straps

      These are the GM part numbers from the ‘65, ‘66, and ‘67 AIMs for the radio ground strap star washers, along with the reproductions of those star washers sold by AMK Products. Without knowing exactly what the GM versions looked like, it’s not possible to tell if the AMK repro versions are accurate. Certainly the teeth on the AMK star washers don’t look like the squared off teeth on the star washers I found on my ‘66 or in Tom’s photo for his ‘65. And the AMK version of GM 121753 has 12 teeth compared to the 8-toothed star washers I found.

      Gary
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      Last edited by Gary B.; December 13, 2020, 09:40 PM.

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      • Gary B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • February 1, 1997
        • 7018

        #48
        Re: C2 ground straps

        And here are some external tooth star washers with a 1/4” hole that have 8 teeth on eBay for just over $5 per 25. Combine these with the LIC repro kit and you’d be able to match the GM washers pretty closely.

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        • Alan D.
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          • January 1, 2005
          • 2038

          #49
          Re: C2 ground straps

          Here is the GM 121753
          Attached Files

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          • Alan D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 1, 2005
            • 2038

            #50
            Re: C2 ground straps

            To supply the missing data for 63 & 64 - here they are from the AIM's

            Radio Ex Hangers Rt Motor Accel Rod Body Clip
            63 AIM Sec U65 sh 4.00-5.00
            strap 3832330 298159 2981856 2981858 2982782
            star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
            64 AIM Sec U69 sh 4.00-5.00
            strap 3832330 298159 2981856 2981858 2982782
            star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753


            SORRY! No matter how many times I try to space these correctly - once posted all spaces are removed and no tabs are included.
            Last edited by Alan D.; December 14, 2020, 08:34 AM. Reason: format problems

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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • August 31, 1988
              • 11323

              #51
              Re: C2 ground straps

              Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
              SORRY! No matter how many times I try to space these correctly - once posted all spaces are removed and no tabs are included.
              Alan, yes I've had that issue too. If you Go Advanced, it allows Table creation. That works better to keep things spaced

              Rich

              edit... just did it for you....

              63 AIM Sec U65 sh 4.00-5.00 Placement/Part: Radio Ex Hangers Rt Motor Accel Rod Body Clip
              strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782
              star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753






              64 AIM Sec U69 sh 4.00-5.00 Placement/Part: Radio Ex Hangers Rt Motor Accel Rod Body Clip
              strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782
              star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753






              or this way....

              Ground Strap/Star Washer Info
              Placement: Radio Ex Hangers Rt Motor Accel Rod Body Clip
              AIM Ref: 63 AIM Sec U65 sh 4.00-5.00
              Part#: strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782
              Part#: star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
              AIM Ref: 64 AIM Sec U69 sh 4.00-5.00
              Part#: strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782
              Part#: star 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
              Last edited by Richard M.; December 14, 2020, 08:44 PM. Reason: corrected part# 2981859

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 7018

                #52

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                • John M.
                  Expired
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 52

                  #53
                  Re: C2 ground straps

                  Have a ten year old unopened bag of AMK B-11314 (174916) washers. They are 9 square point OD and 6 point ID. The design of the AMK washers may change depending on source ?

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                  • Leif A.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1997
                    • 3626

                    #54
                    Re: C2 ground straps

                    Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                    Alan,

                    So, your GM document shows that AMK makes a reasonably accurate reproduction of GM 121753
                    Gary,
                    See picture below of the AMK product represented as 121753
                    Attached Files
                    Leif
                    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 7018

                      #55

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                      • Gary B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • February 1, 1997
                        • 7018

                        #56
                        Re: C2 ground straps

                        John,

                        interesting. It makes you wonder if GM also allowed some variation in the number of teeth to the companies who supplied them with star washers, e.g., maybe 8 or 10 teeth was specified on the GM engineering drawing as acceptable for a vendor supplying the 121753 washer to GM.

                        Gary

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                        • Alan D.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 1, 2005
                          • 2038

                          #57
                          Re: C2 ground straps

                          Thank you Rich,
                          like your first layout however would put ref at end of table in case multiple ref are available.
                          Can we get any takers to fill in a table for 65-67 ?

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                          • Gary B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • February 1, 1997
                            • 7018

                            #58

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 7018

                              #59
                              Re: C2 ground straps

                              For 67, the braided ground straps are the same part numbers as previous C2 years. The solid copper ribbon at the antenna changed to GM 3903410.

                              The ‘67 accelerator strap star washer was GM 138489. The other star washer numbers remained that same as previous years.

                              The one other change is that the ‘67 antenna ribbon had a 174916 star washer at each end.

                              All in ‘67 AIM pages U69, A3; and B1 (antenna).

                              Gary

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                              • Richard M.
                                Super Moderator
                                • August 31, 1988
                                • 11323

                                #60
                                Re: C2 ground straps


                                Created a new table encompassing all midyears. Please check my numbers but I think they're good. I used all 5 of my AIMs. Added the OYO 1963 rear muffler straps and the screws in all years too.

                                If you'd like something added or changed let me know and when time allows I'll do it. Busy day outside today.

                                Rich
                                PS Reminder.... Table creation, editing, and format is in the Go Advanced mode.


                                Year
                                Placement / Part
                                Antenna Exhaust Hanger Engine Mount Accel Lever
                                Body
                                @
                                Birdcage
                                Rear of Mufflers
                                AIM Reference
                                1963 1963 Sec U65, U69 sh 4-5
                                Ground Strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782 2986111
                                Star Washer 174916 121753 121753 none 121753 138485
                                Screw 448645 448645 448645 448645 448645 Existing
                                1964 1964 Sec U69 sh 4-5
                                Ground Strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782 NA
                                Star Washer 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
                                Screw 448645 448645 448645 448645 448645
                                1965 1965 UPC U69 sh A4, B2
                                Ground Strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782 NA
                                Star Washer 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
                                Screw 9420152 448645 448645 448645 448645
                                1966 1966 UPC U69 sh A4, B2
                                Ground Strap 3832330 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782 NA
                                Star Washer 174916 121753 121753 none 121753
                                Screw 9420152 448645 448645 106962 448645
                                1967 1967 UPC U69, sh A3, B1
                                Ground Strap 3903410 2981859 2981856 2981858 2982782
                                NA
                                Star Washer 174916 121753 121753 138489 121753
                                Screw 9420152 9420152 9420152 106962 9420152
                                Last edited by Richard M.; December 15, 2020, 07:03 AM.

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