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  • Harris B.
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    • October 15, 2018
    • 42

    Flow of coolant in heater hoses - 1981

    Everyone, I could use some input on the flow of coolant through the heater hoses. Sorry for this long post.

    Briefly, about a year ago I purchased a 2,500 mile 1981 Corvette. At the time of purchase, the prior owner disconnected the heater hoses from the heater core and just clamped the hoses to a pipe so coolant bypassed the heater core. Given the low mileage, I thought for sure the heater core was fine.

    Sadly, upon connecting the hoses to the heater core, the dreaded drip of coolant on the passenger side floor mat occurred. Thus, I was faced with removing the heater core to have it rebuilt. I removed the heater core and had a local, well respected, radiator shop replace the core. The shop agreed to use the original side tanks so that I could retain the correct inlet/outlet pipes and save the date code (this same radiator shop repaired the heater core on my '82 which works perfectly).

    I reinstalled the repaired heater core (without running coolant through it first to make sure no clogs, my first mistake). Everything was reassembled but no heat. Clearly coolant is not passing through the heater core.

    So, I need to determine where is the coolant not flowing. Yes, I know there is a coolant shut off value that is actuated when you move the "cold-hot" lever all the way to cold. This value can get stuck closed. I will test that. But, before I do so, I thought I would pass coolant through the heater core to see if it flows through it. I plan to flow coolant through the core in both directions so that if there is an obstruction, maybe the reverse flow will help dislodge the obstruction.

    There are two heater hoses that connect to the heater core, one hose has a 3/4" inside diameter hose and the other has a 5/8" inside diameter hose. The 3/4" ID hose comes from the water pump through the shut off value and then to the core. I will call this the "outbound" hose. The 5/8" hose passes from the engine intake manifold directly to the heater core. I will call this the "return" hose. Does the coolant flow from the water pump through the shut off valve to the core, then out of the core directly to the intake manifold (I think this is the direction of flow) or does it flow in the reverse direction?

    Other than: (a) passing coolant through the core in both directions to see if there is any obstruction (I will disconnect the heater hoses, install outside hoses connected to a hand pump and a pail of coolant so that I can independently pump coolant through the core), (b) flowing coolant through the "outbound" hose that has the shut off valve to make sure the valve is not stuck closed and there is otherwise no obstruction in the hose itself, and (c) passing coolant through the "return" hose to make sure there is no obstruction in that hose, is there any other test I should perform? Is there anything else I am missing? Is there a better way to go about this? I would really hate to have to take the core out of the car for further repair so I want to eliminate all possible problems before I have to tear apart the dash again to take out the core.

    I just want everything to work in this low mileage beautiful Corvette. This is the last problem to fix. I appreciate any comments you may have.

    Harris
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    Re: Flow of coolant in heater hoses - 1981

    Harris try to remove the hot water valve and install a nipple to bypass to see if this changes anything
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 31, 1993
      • 4497

      #3
      Re: Flow of coolant in heater hoses - 1981

      Coolant flow is: Intake ==> 5/8" hose ==> heater ==> 3/4" hose ==> water pump. I don't know the location of the valve in this circuit for '81.

      The outlet hose is larger to minimize pressure build up in the heater core. And the source of coolant is the intake because that's where coolant is hottest (just before it goes into the radiator).

      Instead of using a hand pump and pail, test the heater core by connecting the hoses as shown above and completely bypassing the valve.
      Mark Edmondson
      Dallas, Texas
      Texas Chapter

      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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      • Harris B.
        Expired
        • October 15, 2018
        • 42

        #4
        Re: Flow of coolant in heater hoses - 1981

        PROBLEM SOLVED! Thanks to Ed and Mark, I bypassed the coolant shut off valve. Now my Corvette's heater works great! I am so relieved.

        Now, a new problem. Where do I find the rivets? (pictures attached) Also, I assume I have to drill out the old rivets. Any other advice on how to change out the shut off valve.
        rivet.jpgrivet2.jpg

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        • Larry M.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 31, 1991
          • 2686

          #5
          Re: Flow of coolant in heater hoses - 1981

          Early heater valves were normally closed, and required vacuum to open. Later ones, like your car, were just the opposite: normally open with vacuum to to close.

          Be sure the valve you have installed is the correct one, and then test its operation with and without vacuum. Also check that the vacuum lines are correctly positioned coming from the control box. I helped a friend with your exact problem a few years back, and the hose routing was the issue. But valve could also be an incorrect replacement.

          Larry

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