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  • Bill B.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 1, 2016
    • 303

    1970 LT-1 Initial Timing Spec change documentation

    Hi everyone! I am a devoted follower of Duke Williams with his expertise of ignition timing and its evolution in the anti-smog (anti-performance) era. I think y'all may find the following factual tidbit interesting, as I believe it reveals a bit of the "de-tuning" efforts ongoing when the 1970 LT-1 was released into production in Feb 1970.

    When the 1970 Chassis Service Manual was printed in 1969, it is interesting to note that the 1970 Corvette was not included in it. Instead, it specifically stated "1969 CORVETTE" on the cover. In reading the specification section at the end of the manual however, section 6Y, Engine Electrical, under sub-section DISTRIBUTORS, it nicely lists engine description and availability with the distributor P/N and mechanical and vacuum attributes. Knowing that this publication was released well before the introduction of the 1970 Corvette, it interesting to note an entry "350 Cu. In. V-8 - 370 HP RPO LT7, Corvette w/ RPO K-66". The most interesting of this entry is the Ignition timing BTDC at Engine Idle specification of 14 deg BTDC. We all know that the "production" setting of the LT-1 was 8 deg BTDC ... a whole 6 degrees retarded from that initial publication. And while one may speculate that the LT7 was something different, the entry above that one was described as 370 HP LT1, Corvette (but had a point distributor associated with it) with the identical 14 deg initial spec.

    While I subscribe to Duke's timing method of letting the initial setting be what it may after achieving the 34-36 deg total mechanical advance before 3,000 crank rpm, I do find it interesting that it appears the good folks at Chevrolet intended more advance than what ended up in production after the February 1970 introduction.

    I have my Mr. Gasket 928G Dist. Spring kit and the B28 Vac Adv equiv (WVE 4V1053 from Rock Auto) on order and looking forward to better response and performance over the stock settings.
    Bill Bertelli
    Northeast and Carolinas Chapters Member
    '70 Resto Mod LT-1 w/ partial '70 ZR-1 drivetrain
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15569

    #2
    Re: 1970 LT-1 Initial Timing Spec change documentation

    Originally posted by William Bertelli (62632)
    Hi everyone! I am a devoted follower of Duke Williams with his expertise of ignition timing and its evolution in the anti-smog (anti-performance) era. I think y'all may find the following factual tidbit interesting, as I believe it reveals a bit of the "de-tuning" efforts ongoing when the 1970 LT-1 was released into production in Feb 1970.

    When the 1970 Chassis Service Manual was printed in 1969, it is interesting to note that the 1970 Corvette was not included in it. Instead, it specifically stated "1969 CORVETTE" on the cover. In reading the specification section at the end of the manual however, section 6Y, Engine Electrical, under sub-section DISTRIBUTORS, it nicely lists engine description and availability with the distributor P/N and mechanical and vacuum attributes. Knowing that this publication was released well before the introduction of the 1970 Corvette, it interesting to note an entry "350 Cu. In. V-8 - 370 HP RPO LT7, Corvette w/ RPO K-66". The most interesting of this entry is the Ignition timing BTDC at Engine Idle specification of 14 deg BTDC. We all know that the "production" setting of the LT-1 was 8 deg BTDC ... a whole 6 degrees retarded from that initial publication. And while one may speculate that the LT7 was something different, the entry above that one was described as 370 HP LT1, Corvette (but had a point distributor associated with it) with the identical 14 deg initial spec.

    While I subscribe to Duke's timing method of letting the initial setting be what it may after achieving the 34-36 deg total mechanical advance before 3,000 crank rpm, I do find it interesting that it appears the good folks at Chevrolet intended more advance than what ended up in production after the February 1970 introduction.

    I have my Mr. Gasket 928G Dist. Spring kit and the B28 Vac Adv equiv (WVE 4V1053 from Rock Auto) on order and looking forward to better response and performance over the stock settings.
    Bill,
    If you have your original intake and distributer you can set the initial timing to the original factory (Flint) setting by using a mirror to find a chisel mark bridging the manifold and base of the distributor. If you have the AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual) you will find a note on one of the engine pages that instructs to install the distributer aligning these marks. It is a long story about why this is, and I am not up to typing all that while I am at work.

    When I set my 1970 LT1 using those marks the initial timing is at 14 deg. Mine is a relatively early car -- January 29, and I can't tell you that all 1970 LT1s were set to this same setting at Flint.

    BTW: 1970 model year production began January 5, 1970.
    Terry

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 31, 1992
      • 15597

      #3
      Re: 1970 LT-1 Initial Timing Spec change documentation

      As I said in my tuning seminar, emission controlled engine spark advance maps were set up to meet emission standards, not fuel economy or performance. That means that the entire spark advance map is significantly retarded in order to increase EGT to promote oxidation of HC and CO in the exhaust system with injected air.

      The best spark advance map for the LT-1 is the same as the OE setup for the 365/375 HP 327s. Centrifugal all in at no more than 2500, 8" VAC, and set total WOT advance (VAC signal hose disconnected and plugged) a few hundred revs above the point of maximum centrifugal as high in the 36-40 degree range as the engine will tolerate without detonation.

      Duke

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