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  • Bruce W.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 1997
    • 358

    harmonic balancer

    Hey Guys,
    Anyone know where I can get a NOS or rebuilt Balancer for a 1965 high performance 327. Have tried CC, Paragon, Zip, chicago corvettes, trim parts? no one seems to have one. Do not want to wait for a rebuild. Damper Doctors was recommended but the review was not good? Any suggestions where I can find one?
    Bruce
  • Joe R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1976
    • 4550

    #2
    Re: harmonic balancer

    Bruce.

    Your looking for a GM 3817173.

    DC but selling on e-bay from time to time.

    JR

    PS, just checked and there are several on e-bay. Not cheap either. I sold mine too cheap according to those prices.

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7119

      #3
      Re: harmonic balancer

      Have you tried DamperDudes?
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43218

        #4
        Re: harmonic balancer

        Originally posted by Bruce Wilcox (29338)
        Hey Guys,
        Anyone know where I can get a NOS or rebuilt Balancer for a 1965 high performance 327. Have tried CC, Paragon, Zip, chicago corvettes, trim parts? no one seems to have one. Do not want to wait for a rebuild. Damper Doctors was recommended but the review was not good? Any suggestions where I can find one?
        Bruce

        Bruce------


        For 1965 the L-75 was the "high performance" engine option. The L-79, L-76, and L-84 were the "special high performance" 327 engine options.

        I'm going to assume that what you are asking about is the special high performance engine balancer. That was GM #3817173. However, there were two versions of this balancer. The first version used from 1962 to 1966 had "fins" on the reverse side of the hub section. The second version, used for 1967-68, had no fins. Your chances of finding an NOS example of the "finned" version are about as good as the chances of the people in hell getting ice-water. This version has not been available in SERVICE for more than 50 years.

        In any event, if it is the special high performance balancer you are seeking, there are plenty available on eBay, either NOS (non-finned) reproduction, rebuilt or used. Search under 3817171. NOS, reproduction, or rebuilt will not be inexpensive, though. As far as used goes, well, you probably already have one of those and with used you don't know if the ones available are any better than the one you have.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Bruce W.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 30, 1997
          • 358

          #5
          Re: harmonic balancer

          thanks Joe, expensive but I already know that. sounds like about 500,00 bucks! have you had any experience with anyone who rebuilds these?
          Bruce

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          • Richard G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1984
            • 1715

            #6
            Re: harmonic balancer


            Dale Manufacturing

            www.hbrepair.com





            Harmonic Balancer rebuilding/ repair , for all makes, models (under 25 pounds weight). $130.00 base price ... Salem, Oregon USA 97301 (503) 364-8685 PST

            He has a lot of good reviews.
            Bad news it he is closed every other month and Sept is one of them.

            Rick

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43218

              #7
              Re: harmonic balancer

              Originally posted by Bruce Wilcox (29338)
              thanks Joe, expensive but I already know that. sounds like about 500,00 bucks! have you had any experience with anyone who rebuilds these?
              Bruce

              Bruce------

              I have no experience with any balancer rebuilders.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Michael H.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1987
                • 726

                #8
                Re: harmonic balancer

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Bruce------


                For 1965 the L-75 was the "high performance" engine option. The L-79, L-76, and L-84 were the "special high performance" 327 engine options.

                I'm going to assume that what you are asking about is the special high performance engine balancer. That was GM #3817173. However, there were two versions of this balancer. The first version used from 1962 to 1966 had "fins" on the reverse side of the hub section. The second version, used for 1967-68, had no fins. Your chances of finding an NOS example of the "finned" version are about as good as the chances of the people in hell getting ice-water. This version has not been available in SERVICE for more than 50 years.

                In any event, if it is the special high performance balancer you are seeking, there are plenty available on eBay, either NOS (non-finned) reproduction, rebuilt or used. Search under 3817171. NOS, reproduction, or rebuilt will not be inexpensive, though. As far as used goes, well, you probably already have one of those and with used you don't know if the ones available are any better than the one you have.
                Joe,

                I believe the finned balancer was used on 67's as well, as my original L79 engine ( built on Feb. 23 ) has a finned balancer on it. This subject has been discussed on the TDB with other members having finned balancers. The 67 Judging Manual calls for a finned balancer on L79 motors.

                Mike

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                • Jeffrey S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1988
                  • 1882

                  #9
                  Re: harmonic balancer

                  Bruce,
                  I used Damper Dudes to rebuild my '69 balancer when I had the engine done several years ago. It has functioned perfectly since. Very happy with the price, turn around, and quality of work.
                  Jeff

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43218

                    #10
                    Re: harmonic balancer

                    Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
                    Joe,

                    I believe the finned balancer was used on 67's as well, as my original L79 engine ( built on Feb. 23 ) has a finned balancer on it. This subject has been discussed on the TDB with other members having finned balancers. The 67 Judging Manual calls for a finned balancer on L79 motors.

                    Mike

                    Mike-----

                    I think the design was changed sometime during the 1967 model year. I have no idea when.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Bill B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • June 30, 1999
                      • 182

                      #11
                      Re: harmonic balancer

                      I would like to add to this thread that I just ordered a harmonic balancer for my 65 327/300 from the local Chevy dealer (P/N 3896904). Cost $112. So, atleast for the 300hp, GM is still selling them.

                      I'll have the engine out this winter and will have the crank drilled so I can add a bolt to secure the balancer.

                      Bill B.

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43218

                        #12
                        Re: harmonic balancer

                        Originally posted by Bill Bonnichsen (32446)
                        I would like to add to this thread that I just ordered a harmonic balancer for my 65 327/300 from the local Chevy dealer (P/N 3896904). Cost $112. So, atleast for the 300hp, GM is still selling them.

                        I'll have the engine out this winter and will have the crank drilled so I can add a bolt to secure the balancer.

                        Bill B.

                        Bill-----


                        Your dealer must have had one in stock or got it from another dealer that had it in stock as the GM #3896904 is discontinued without supersession.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Bill B.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • June 30, 1999
                          • 182

                          #13
                          Re: harmonic balancer

                          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                          Bill-----


                          Your dealer must have had one in stock or got it from another dealer that had it in stock as the GM #3896904 is discontinued without supersession.
                          Joe, The dealer I called said a the source was a warehouse in Michigan which I believe was a GM parts warehouse. It will take a week or so to get the part so we'll see. I hope I don't get something I don't need as this was a special order and is non-refundable.

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                          • Bruce W.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • June 30, 1997
                            • 358

                            #14
                            Re: harmonic balancer

                            Bill,
                            congratulations. I just paid 400 for a new repro.
                            Bruce

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43218

                              #15
                              Re: harmonic balancer

                              Originally posted by Bruce Wilcox (29338)
                              Bill,
                              congratulations. I just paid 400 for a new repro.
                              Bruce

                              Bruce------


                              If you're talking about a 300 HP balancer a replacement which is virtually identical to the original is available from Pioneer under their part number DA 3270
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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