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  • William F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 9, 2009
    • 1357

    AC freezing up

    My factory R12 ac '67 was cooling fine till about a mo ago when wouldn't pull down below 50 Degrees. Sa a few bubbles in site glass so empirically added one can of R12. Now freezes up. I should mention ac has the POA replacement device but installed that several yrs ago and all was well till what I now describe. Overcharged or something stopped up or switch on POA replacement which turned compressor on and off bad? I plan to get my technician to put gages on and get reading, but till then, do any of you have suggestions?
    Thanks
  • Stephen L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1984
    • 3149

    #2
    Re: AC freezing up

    Probably low on Freon. Check the pressures with a gage set.

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    • Bill M.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1989
      • 1317

      #3
      Re: AC freezing up

      Second that is

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      • Harry S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 2002
        • 5266

        #4
        Re: AC freezing up

        Is this an expansion valve problem? If it doesn't close you will get ice. Check the line from the expansion valve to the bulb. Has the bulb become exposed?


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        • William F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 9, 2009
          • 1357

          #5
          Re: AC freezing up

          bulb seems to still be against the return "pipe" and with insulation around it.

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          • Domenic T.
            Expired
            • January 28, 2010
            • 2452

            #6
            Re: AC freezing up

            William,
            If you have the A6 then don't use the cycling. They were not built for that. If the evap froze then turn the A/c off. The cycle burns the clutch and also causes the hub to go off center and cause the front seal to loose it's center and leak. I have always preached that IF you want your original comp to last then turn it on @ idle, or start the engine with it on! clutch is metal to metal and will have to self center wen engaged. If not then seal failures, especially with the China double lip seal. One thing China got right was the Hub clutch. They are right on, but do not have cosmetics of earlier hub clutch.
            When I spin the original hub clutches they are all over the place. Balance, wobble, and specs. If it freezes you seem to have a +. Complaints are that they don't.

            Dom

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            • William F.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 9, 2009
              • 1357

              #7
              Re: AC freezing up

              Domenic,
              I understand your concern about stress on compressor clutches with the cycling that occurs if one had replaced the POA valve with the so called upgrade which works by cycling the compressor on and off . However, if you want to replace a bad POA valve with a good one rather than going to the "upgrade " device that cycles, where do you get a reliable POA valve? Some say the rebuilt ones are a waste of money and how would you know an old new old stock one would be reliable? Sources?

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              • Mark E.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 1993
                • 4501

                #8
                Re: AC freezing up

                They can be pricey, but find an NOS POA and test it. There are a few guys on eBay who sell them. Old Air Products has a selection of NOS parts too; I scored a couple of nice expansion valves from them awhile ago.
                Mark Edmondson
                Dallas, Texas
                Texas Chapter

                1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                • Domenic T.
                  Expired
                  • January 28, 2010
                  • 2452

                  #9
                  Re: AC freezing up

                  William,
                  I was under the impression that with a new POA you had the option not to hook up the cycling.

                  Dom

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                  • William F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 9, 2009
                    • 1357

                    #10
                    Re: AC freezing up

                    How to test a POA??

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                    • William F.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 9, 2009
                      • 1357

                      #11
                      Re: AC freezing up

                      Some how we're not on same page.With a POA installed as '67 Corvettes came from factory with, compressor doesn't turn on and off-"cycle". It stays on with you turn AC on. It's with the socalled "POA upgrade" which replaces the POA that turns compressor on and off depending on adjustment you can make.

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