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  • David B.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 1, 1980
    • 689

    Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

    As a follow up on a recent thread regarding the 58-60 Judging manual and correcting errors:
    I have never been in favor of spiral bound Judging Manuals for the simple reason pages with incorrect or incomplete information cannot be easily removed and new information added and/or updated. By using a spiral bound manual updating is not only costly but very "slooow" and inefficient. The former paper binder Dealer Master parts catalog system whereby pages could be easily removed and a revised page inserted was a good example of keeping information up to date.

    The 6th edition of the 56-57 judging manual printed January 2015 for the most part is a good example of well researched information locked into a spiral manual that I believe needs an upgrade but does not require a complete makeover. Case in point: Page 103 shows 4 photographs of various water outlet housings, the bottom 2 photos of the aluminum version indicates it is PN 3837233 forget for the moment that I disagree with the JM's explanation when it was first used in production assembly. What caught my attention was the part number 3837233 used in the photos and description. The photos are nice, unfortunately the captioned PN 3837233 is incorrect. There are numerous other areas with similar inaccuracies (bolt chart) as well as subject matter not covered. With a few exceptions, all of these are not major issues and can be easily corrected with simple revised page inserts that would bring the judging manual up to 2020 standards. With computers now dominating everything, revised pages could even be sent over the internet. Imagine that! If worried about lost revenue from the sale of $50 manuals, a small charge for the revised pages after the manuals initial sale should be just compensation.

    If interested, part #3837233 can be found in Grp.1.516. It is described as the small 7 3/4 OL tube inside the 8 cyl. 2nd design engine.
  • Gary C.
    Administrator
    • October 1, 1982
    • 17643

    #2
    Re: Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

    Dave,

    You're correct. The caption indicates the part number instead of the "cast" number 38337223.

    Members and Judges are going to use the cast number to identify this part, not the number in the P&A.

    IMG_0235.jpg

    Gary
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    Last edited by Gary C.; August 10, 2020, 09:28 AM. Reason: Update Info
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    • David B.
      Very Frequent User
      • March 1, 1980
      • 689

      #3
      Re: Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

      Gary,
      The main point I was trying to make was:
      "Get rid of spiral bound Judging Manuals for all years"
      The thermostat housing (casting # and part number are the same) was just a small sample of incorrect information that can be corrected quickly and easily with out waiting 5-10 years for a new judging manual. Revised pages inserted in any JM year would bring them ALL current (like up dating the AIM).
      I bet you are even sitting on information that could be in the 56-57 manual but cannot add in the current spiral edition.

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      • David H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 2001
        • 1519

        #4
        Re: Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

        Originally posted by David Bartush (3288)
        .... The main point I was trying to make was:"Get rid of spiral bound Judging Manuals for all years"
        ...
        David

        I think getting rid of spiral bound Judging Manuals would be an administrative and logistical nightmare. We already have an Errata Forum for significant errors. Our bound manuals provide a consistent standard for owners and judges. If "loose leaf", then by whom and how is this consistency to be maintained?

        Logistically how does our store maintain a system of updated sheets? If updates are via this Tech Board, then you have a participation problem. If automatic updates are to be sent, then manual owners need to be registered, addresses updated, non NCRS store sales tracked, etc ... And this administration and logistics won't be free - prepare for sticker shock - document subscription services are expensive.

        Dave
        Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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        • Gary C.
          Administrator
          • October 1, 1982
          • 17643

          #5
          Re: Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

          David,

          No, am not sitting on any information - have passed that baton after spending thousands of hours updating the 5th and 6th Editions of the 1956-57 Judging Manual with great assistance from many other notable and knowledgeable 1956-57 NCRS Members. Plus including years of my personal research from actual "Bowtie" type Corvette such as the bolt and screw charts.

          Gary
          ....
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          • Loren L.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 30, 1976
            • 4104

            #6
            Re: Updating the 56-57 Judging Manual and others

            How about a return to "Plan Z"? I have a now hopelessly outdated 1967 JG with a notation on the cover (by me) in red: "Pen and ink changes inserted or deleted pursuant to instructions contained in The Corvette Restorer, Volume 21, #3.". A copy of that article is stapled to the inside of the front cover and the changes posted to each designated page in red ink and initialled by me.
            Last edited by Loren L.; August 12, 2020, 05:06 AM.

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