66-67 427 radiator shroud

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

The 66-67s don't have part #s cast in. If its grey fiberglass it should be 66, black 67. That's if its a production line part. I have a nos 66 427 right side 3886888 in black. The difference in the 67 3911110 r. side is clearance for the hose, an angled area at the bottom right where it used to be a sharper corner as in the left side. Also the 66 r. side has a 1/8" hole at bottom center of shroud, gone in 67. Nice shots Daniel and Thanks. I'm trying to get more info but hope to make an organized post soon with pictures.

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

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[Enzo C.]

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

There are conflicting views on whether 66 427 cars came from the production line with or without a flat rivet in the left joint. I have 5 1966 427 production line shrouds and 2 67. Of the 66's 4 have the rivet and 1 does not. Of 4 very original 66 cars checked recently; 3 of them from this thread,3 have the rivet, 1 does not. That's 7 shrouds with,2 without the rivet. Whatever you call this production line rivet installed, if there's more with than without, it's typical. Most of the shrouds I've seen have 3, and a few have 2 stickers. They're 3/4" square with rounded corners and a small notched space on two sides where they must tear off a roll of stickers. Many originals show a piece of the next one off the roll. Some may have fell off before or during getting painted. Under the stickers is bare fiberglass. 100_5173[1].jpg100_5186[1].jpg100_5166[1].jpg100_5140[1].jpg

[Ronald L.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Mark

Both my 66 original cars No rivets
Mike and others told you No rivets
Need to check your math

On the locations. You pics initially don’t include the center piece at least what is read in the 8x11 paper in the picture???

If that’s true. Huge omission

I can go to the shop and look at unmolested originals.


I pulled the radiator less that 50,000 car

I can now see the outline on the two other stickers



On the wings

Not the base the multiple orange spots on the shroud main surface, so I think your paper in the pictures needs to state something like "these are areas where stickers have been found" on a sampling of ___ shrouds.

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

When I started to type out the body of what I said yesterday, I went to add the pictures from this digital camera to find it shuts off automatically. While trying to link it back I closed a longer more detailed text which took almost a half hour. After a few &*#@* words to myself I sent pictures and a briefer text. Yes Ronald the uppers all have a sticker. Please forgive my lack of presentation skills but I hoped most would get the gist of it. Ronald I wonder if you have a late 67 427 shroud or if someone here may share info on theirs. I have 2 versions of the 67, 1 with DS on left and right and another with same left and right DS but GT on all 3 parts. I can only speculate the latter to be a late production part. General Tire took over the AO Smith plant in Ionia,Mi. as we have seen the 68 and up parts with thier logos. My question is did they make some of the shrouds on late 67 production cars? Does anyone know what the DS cast on parts means? You may have some helpful parts on this subject Ronald and it sounds like you could find some answers. I wonder if we got so much detail on every part of a car, we couldn't pick up it's judging guide? Any help here appreciated.

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

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[Ronald L.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Mark
I had a very odd one

GT logos 1967 part numbers And it had more 68 characteristics than 67

Back a few years I presented this detail but lacking the passion and contribution we have this time I sold it

I can check my stash this next weekend

Worth another look for stickers and these late details

DS was the supplier someone sure to recall

[Tony S.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Is there a source for correctly configured shroud stickers? If they are painted black with the shroud, I don't suppose printing matters. Only the silhouette.

[Ronald L.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Not yet I had a small die made the we got locked down

Tony you are correct

Bare plastic under the sticker and the stickers were painted along with the part they were attached to

[Wayne G.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Mark,

Pictures of my fan shroud with the decal on my AO Smith body '66, Nov 30 '65 build date. No rivet.

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[Ronald L.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Mark,
In your stack-up picture above, Post #52 the second from bottom picture...

There is one shroud that has the DS logo, and right next to it is a GT logo, significant is General Tire who was known to take over the business.

Do you by chance have know early to late '67 shrouds, as I don't see that on all but one of the 67 shrouds I currently have.

[Enzo C.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

I agree with Ron.. original 67 shroud on assembly line had no rivet

[Mark M.]

Re: 66-67 427 radiator shroud

Hey Ronald, The 67 shroud picture your referring to and the two pictures above it are of the same production line shroud. All 3 parts have the GT on them. The middle picture of the left shroud part doesn't show the GT as well but it's there to the right of the DS, and as on the picture of the right shroud part, both show the GT and DS turned 180 degrees of each other. The top picture ( 4th up from stack) shows the damaged top part with the GT upside down. This same shroud has 2 original decals and overflow hose straps. I believe it to be a late production line 67 shroud. It's identical to other 67 production line shrouds I have except for the GT added on all 3 parts. An easy engraving added to the 3 dies. I've asked if any late 67 427 owners with original shrouds could help us to see how early the GT could be seen, but no one responded. Maybe it needs a fresh post. We spoke on this topic early this year under the post titled (1967 Big Block Fan Shroud). It sounds like you as I have a number of original 67 shrouds and only one has GTs. It seems General Tire started adding their logo in 1967 on parts made in the AO Smith plant they took over. Some shrouds may be seen with only 1 or 2 of the 3 parts with the GT as the later parts filtered into St. Louis. On the cars, only the top part is easy to see the GT. Does the shroud you have with GT, show it on all 3 parts?

[Ronald L.]