Oil filter canister

[Dana B.]

I checked the archives ,didn't see oil filter container details .. Oil change on a '57 ... when do I change seals O rings, snap rings ,other seals with in the oil filter canister after a 40k rebuild and 30 years and best place to get the parts ?? . I think it
's due !

[Frank D.]

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There is a gent that restores them (others will have his name) including new silk-screened label, but otherwise I don't know why you'd mess with it - there is not much in there short of a shaft, spring and cartridge retainer with a copper washer on the bottom under the bolt head, both my 61 and 63 ran the original canisters for decades... The vendors sell "rebuild" kits but I'm not a fan of them...

[Jimmy G.]

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If it is not broke -- Dont fix it If it does not leak, use it as it is. If looks are the question, Richard Fortier does them Not cheap but very NICE

[William F.]

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Main thing is when you remove cannister and old filter for filter change, you must you a pick to remove the old gasket up in the recess where the cannister goes. Then install a new gasket which will come with the new filter . If you overlook removing the old gasket you'll get a big leak. don't ask me how I know.

[Mark S.]

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I have a friend that did not remove the old gasket; and he ended up freezing his engine up.

[Jim L.]

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I have a friend that did not remove the old gasket; and he ended up freezing his engine up.

How? Why?

Expiring minds want to know.....

[Frank D.]

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I use a strong flashlight and dental pick to make SURE the old gasket is removed and after I snug up the canister I run a super thin bondo spreader around the periphery of the canister at the block to make SURE I didn't tighten the canister against the block and not fully into its recess..

[Mark S.]

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Jim:

I am also in that expiring mind phase of life. What happened, is that my friend's son-in-law did not take the old gasket out and put the new gasket in on top of it. The two gaskets produced a gap where the oil ran out; and he did not notice it until the engine froze up. This last winter provided an expensive rebuild on the engine. I am surprised that he is still in good relations with his son-in-law. He probably wishes he would have changed the filter himself.

Mark

Mark

[Jim L.]

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Jim:

I am also in that expiring mind phase of life. What happened, is that my friend's son-in-law did not take the old gasket out and put the new gasket in on top of it. The two gaskets produced a gap where the oil ran out; and he did not notice it until the engine froze up.

Mark

Copy that. Thanks for the explanation.

FWIW (likely not much), I can't remember the last time I went to the trouble of pulling out the O-ring gasket when changing the filter on the engine of my '60. It wasn't leaking before the change and it won't get better if I replace the gasket, so I've left it alone thru several oil changes. I bet that O-ring is at least 20 years old.

Jim

[Larry M.]

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Many folks have run with two gaskets around the filter can without issues. My car was the same when I purchased it. Obviously not a good idea to do this, but oil failure is not always the result.

As others, I use a dental pick to remove the old o-ring gasket, wipe the cavity clean with a soft cloth, lube the new o-ring with Vaseline and put it in the cavity. The Vaseline (or a light grease) will hold the gasket in place. Install the filter can and filter, and then torque to spec.

Never an issue in 25 years with the car.

FWIW: The reproduction filter cans are thinner and provide less sealing surface. I used one for awhile, but found an original and had it restored. I feel more confident with the original can.

Larry

[Jim D.]

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As others, I use a dental pick to remove the old o-ring gasket, wipe the cavity clean with a soft cloth, lube the new o-ring with Vaseline and put it in the cavity. The Vaseline (or a light grease) will hold the gasket in place. Install the filter can and filter, and then torque to spec.

Never an issue in 25 years with the car.

Larry

That's how I've done it 100's of times for 50 years and never had an issue.

[Wayne L.]

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When I do want to change the o-ring, I just remove the two capscrews that hold the check valve up to the block, remove the valve and o-ring.
I have also had issues with the reproduction canisters (wall thinkness too thin). I use the restored original cans from Richard Fortier-very nice. And, the silk screen is in the correct location.
Wayne

[Dana B.]

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Thanks all for the comments . When I removed the can last week , I found the internal snap ring was not in the groove on the bolt . It had slid up the bolt to the bolt threads .This is what triggered my original post . I plan to replace the snap ring . Should there be a rubber washer between the top of the spring and the cone ? This PF 131 didn't have one. ( I believe later PF 141 had it) Will I be ok to reuse external copper bolt washer ? Dana

[William F.]

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May be talking about 2 different gaskets? The gasket that goes in groove where cannister contacts it that you need to change when you change filters is not an "O" ring, but a circular gasket that is flat on its mating surfaces. You can get away with not changing it or running 2 gaskets by accident for a while but definitely not a good idea.

[Frank D.]

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May be talking about 2 different gaskets? The gasket that goes in groove where cannister contacts it that you need to change when you change filters is not an "O" ring, but a circular gasket that is flat on its mating surfaces. You can get away with not changing it or running 2 gaskets by accident for a while but definitely not a good idea.

I wouldn't bet an engine on that.... I have personal knowledge of a '61 that dumped several quarts of oil on the highway because of that very mistake. Only a lightning quick shutdown saved the motor...