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  • Richard L.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1984
    • 193

    1967 s/b replacement starter

    I need to replace the original starter on my S/B (300 hp, 4-sp) 1967. The original will go in a box for the next owner, for now I just want to install a good solid reliable unit. What do you recommend, NAPA, Rock Auto, Summit? Are there specific specs that I need to be mindful of so that I'm sure it will fit and operate properly. If someone can provide part numbers, so much the better. And thank you in advance.
    Ric
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5183

    #2
    Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

    Richard,

    You will probably get many opinions from a post like this but my feeling is to overhaul the original and install it back where it belongs, it will last longer than us.

    These things are not hard to overhaul and I would not change anything that's not wore out like the solenoid.

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    • Richard L.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1984
      • 193

      #3
      Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

      timothy,
      Not at all interested in rebuild/overhaul. Just want a good replacement unit from a reputable aftermarket supplier.

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      • Mark T.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 1, 2004
        • 199

        #4
        Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

        Richard when I had to replace the starter in my 1966 I went with a AC Delco factory rebuilt that was 5 years ago and it works great
        I just ordered the replacement from the catalog by application.
        I am not sure if Rock Auto carries it in AC Delco but they would be the least expensive. No matter where you get another starter if it is a rebuilt you will have to pay for the core charge if you are keeping your original starter.
        Good Luck
        Mark

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        • Leif A.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 1997
          • 3626

          #5
          Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

          A/C Delco from Rock Auto. $35.99 plus $15.00 core charge.

          Leif
          '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
          Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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          • Richard L.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 1, 1984
            • 193

            #6
            Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

            Guys,
            False alarm. Even though my voltmeter was reading 12.6v, the battery couldn't pass the load test. New battery was all it took. So, a word of caution before pulling the starter--try a new battery or switch it with another one that you know for sure is good and see if it'll start the car in question. I guess that's today's lesson.
            Again, thanks for all those who chimed in.
            Ric

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            • Mark E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1993
              • 4531

              #7
              Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

              To add to the thread for the benefit of others-

              Five years ago I installed an Autozone rebuilt starter that works great. Today they sell for $54 plus $12 core and come with free next day delivery and a lifetime warranty. Ordered for a 1970, I received an original GM housing dated 1972. If judged, I think it would only get dinged for date.
              Mark Edmondson
              Dallas, Texas
              Texas Chapter

              1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
              1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43213

                #8
                Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                To add to the thread for the benefit of others-

                If judged, I think it would only get dinged for date.

                Mark------


                ...and unless you got very lucky the part number.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43213

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                  Originally posted by Timothy Barbieri (6542)
                  Richard,

                  You will probably get many opinions from a post like this but my feeling is to overhaul the original and install it back where it belongs, it will last longer than us.

                  These things are not hard to overhaul and I would not change anything that's not wore out like the solenoid.

                  Timothy-----


                  Another method I have used: obtain all NOS internal parts for the starter. Combine these with the original starter frame and nose (which are non-wear components). When complete one will have an essentially brand new starter with original external components , "numbers", and "dates". I've built a few of these (for myself only).

                  By the way, the same thing can be done for alternators. I've done that, too.
                  Last edited by Joe L.; April 22, 2020, 11:30 PM. Reason: add second paragraph
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Bill M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1989
                    • 1322

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                    Rich
                    My local mom and pop auto parts store deals with a alternator and starter shop that will rebuild and return your part. Why dont you see if there are any shops in your area that may offer that service.
                    Bill

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                    • Richard G.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 31, 1984
                      • 1715

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                      I have replaced many a starter and flywheel gear. The issue was directly traceable to the rebuild starter nose cone.
                      Many replacement starters come with generic nose cones, identifiable because the lack of any numbers or manufacture ID on them.
                      Then they include shims for the supposed cure all. I have also observed cracked blocks from this issue. Sometimes the cause is leaving off the starter motor end support. But this is difficult to prove, but I never recommend leaving them off.
                      Just assisted with a 69 Camaro that had a noisy starter. The flywheel was bad and the block had crack at one of the starter bolt holes. This was repaired with a Made in the USA Three Bolt starter. It was expensive but much easier than replacing the newly rebuild block.
                      Bottom line, the factory nose cones are gold. Even if I use another starter I change out the nose cone so I can retain the original starter to block alignment.

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                      • Frank D.
                        Expired
                        • December 27, 2007
                        • 2703

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                        I know the OP said he doesn't want to do a rebuild, but my original 61 starter was rebuilt locally for $85 and done in one day....

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                        • Richard L.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 1, 1984
                          • 193

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 s/b replacement starter

                          Wow, scary story regarding the nose cone. I will remember your good advice and keep the original GM factory nose cone any time I switch starters although it had never crossed my mind to give up the original starter as a core for a mere $10--or for any amount for that matter. Thank you for the tip. As I've already pointed out above, it was the battery after all in this case (which could not pass the load test) and not the starter motor at fault. Soon enough, though, it'll happen the other way around and for that all of the suggestions proffered in this thread are most welcome.
                          Be well and safe out there.

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