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  • Lawrence M.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 31, 1995
    • 404

    Question About Alternator Test 1969

    1969 small block . Believed to be original 42 Amp Alt. Probably rebuilt in early 90's when car was restored by PO.
    Want to make sure an internal problem with the Alt is all I have.
    Key off voltage at battrey is 12.75
    At idle voltage at battery is 12.75
    Key on Alt Bat Terminal shows 0.155 volts
    Alt Harness terminal 1 shows 0.08-0.10 volts
    Alt Harness terminal 2 shows 12.75 volts
    At idle Alt Bat Terminal shows 76.2 volts ! Checked with 2 multimeters. Apparently non of it getting to the battery.

    I want to make sure this doesn't indicate more than an internal problem with the Alt.

    Also did a parasitic draw test. 00.48 milliamps.

    Thanks for any advice.
    Larry
    2002 Z51 Convertible
    1969 L46 Convertible
  • Jimmy G.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 31, 1979
    • 975

    #2
    Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

    Alternator or the regulator is bad Voltage at idle should be north of 14
    Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 31, 1988
      • 43194

      #3
      Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

      Originally posted by Lawrence Merchantz (25805)
      1969 small block . Believed to be original 42 Amp Alt. Probably rebuilt in early 90's when car was restored by PO.
      Want to make sure an internal problem with the Alt is all I have.
      Key off voltage at battrey is 12.75
      At idle voltage at battery is 12.75
      Key on Alt Bat Terminal shows 0.155 volts
      Alt Harness terminal 1 shows 0.08-0.10 volts
      Alt Harness terminal 2 shows 12.75 volts
      At idle Alt Bat Terminal shows 76.2 volts ! Checked with 2 multimeters. Apparently non of it getting to the battery.

      I want to make sure this doesn't indicate more than an internal problem with the Alt.

      Also did a parasitic draw test. 00.48 milliamps.

      Thanks for any advice.

      Larry------


      Can you post front and back photos of the alternator?
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Lawrence M.
        Very Frequent User
        • January 31, 1995
        • 404

        #4
        Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

        Joe,
        I will be removing the Alt tomorrow, and will take the pictures for you . The car is a late build (Q15) with a "900" alt, date code 9L21.
        Thanks for the replies Joe and Jimmy.
        Larry
        2002 Z51 Convertible
        1969 L46 Convertible

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        • William H.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 28, 1999
          • 249

          #5
          Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

          Hello Larry!
          Your Alternator may not be bad. You seem to have an open between ALt bat teminal and battery. I don't have a 69 wiring diag handy but at the alternator battery terminal you should read battery voltage with the key off or on engine not running. THen about 13-14.5 V with the engine at idle or just above. THe alternator is putting out that high voltage because it is not seeing anything back to the regulator in the alternator. THe alternat0r could be bad too. I would find a wiring diagram or look in the shop manual and see how the alt bat terminal gets to the battery. I THINK it is at the horn relay. you may have a blown fusible link or the wires are not connected to the horn relay properly. or the wire from the horn relay to the starter bat terminal may not be complete. I would check all that before replacing th4e alternator. OF course you can take it off and take it to Napa and have them test it. Let us know what you find.
          Bill

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

            Originally posted by William Holder (31950)
            Hello Larry!
            Your Alternator may not be bad. You seem to have an open between ALt bat teminal and battery. I don't have a 69 wiring diag handy but at the alternator battery terminal you should read battery voltage with the key off or on engine not running. THen about 13-14.5 V with the engine at idle or just above. THe alternator is putting out that high voltage because it is not seeing anything back to the regulator in the alternator. THe alternat0r could be bad too. I would find a wiring diagram or look in the shop manual and see how the alt bat terminal gets to the battery. I THINK it is at the horn relay. you may have a blown fusible link or the wires are not connected to the horn relay properly. or the wire from the horn relay to the starter bat terminal may not be complete. I would check all that before replacing th4e alternator. OF course you can take it off and take it to Napa and have them test it. Let us know what you find.
            Bill
            Blown fusible link would shut power off to basically everything. Believe he has a bad regulator
            Dick Whittington

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            • Lawrence M.
              Very Frequent User
              • January 31, 1995
              • 404

              #7
              Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

              Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
              Blown fusible link would shut power off to basically everything. Believe he has a bad regulator
              Everything still works. Even the ammeter. Starts and runs fine.
              Larry
              2002 Z51 Convertible
              1969 L46 Convertible

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              • Lawrence M.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 31, 1995
                • 404

                #8
                Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969



                Joe,
                Here are the pictures you requested.
                Larry
                2002 Z51 Convertible
                1969 L46 Convertible

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                • Lawrence M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 31, 1995
                  • 404

                  #9
                  Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

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                  Joe,
                  Here are the pictures you requested.
                  Larry
                  2002 Z51 Convertible
                  1969 L46 Convertible

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43194

                    #10
                    Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

                    Larry------


                    This appears to be legit very late 1969-1970 alternator configuration. The rear case half would be correct only for very late 1969 which your car apparently is. Note the raised boss for the ground lug and the slightly raised rectangle below the Delco-Remy script. These features are usually associated with 1970 alternators. However, very late 1969 used it, too.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Lawrence M.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 31, 1995
                      • 404

                      #11
                      Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Larry------


                      This appears to be legit very late 1969-1970 alternator configuration. The rear case half would be correct only for very late 1969 which your car apparently is. Note the raised boss for the ground lug and the slightly raised rectangle below the Delco-Remy script. These features are usually associated with 1970 alternators. However, very late 1969 used it, too.
                      Thanks Joe, The car's build date Q15 is Monday Dec 15, 1969 . The last week of 1969 production.
                      Larry
                      2002 Z51 Convertible
                      1969 L46 Convertible

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                      • Lawrence M.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • January 31, 1995
                        • 404

                        #12
                        Re: Question About Alternator Test 1969

                        Wanted to post an update on my alternator problem. Sent it to Ken Bruno Motorsports . From the day I shipped it until it arrived at my door was just under 4 weeks. It looks brand new and charges 14.6 volts. Ken also restored my starter last year and it also came out like new and works great.


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                        Larry
                        2002 Z51 Convertible
                        1969 L46 Convertible

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