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  • Ray K.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1985
    • 370

    #16
    Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

    If the ordering / selling dealer was not located in California but instead in one of the other states they could have possibly had the Corvette shipped to Raines Chevrolet and perhaps arranged a " Courtesy Delivery " to the new owner who was not intending to title and register it in California. Due to the strong military influence in the area and personnel frequently transferred to new posts it is my thought that such a transaction could have happened. Therefore, the Corvette would not have had the K19 option and the JC code would be correct. Not sure if the NCRS shipping data program can confirm or disprove this scenario.


    Ray

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    • Mark L.
      Very Frequent User
      • July 31, 1989
      • 560

      #17
      Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

      Ray and Phil. The records are for the dealer who placed the order for the car, not necessarily where it was customer delivered. Very black and white.

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43221

        #18
        Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

        Originally posted by Bob Brewer (967)
        Is anybody positive L-88's were delivered to CALIF dealers ( other than back door race cars) There were years we didn't even get 4 speeds or L-82's. I seem to remember James Garner / Dick "Mr Corvette Guildstrand got the '68 L-88's out of Clippinger Chev Covina, but who knows
        if those were "retail" or factory back door deals

        Bob------

        I don't know if any 1967 L-88's were delivered to California. Certainly, considering the small number ever built, if there were any there were not too many. If none were delivered to California, then the K-19 issue is a moot point. However, the PCV system was required nationwide well before 1967. So, regardless of where delivered all cars had to have it. But, 1967 L-88's did not.

        For 1968 the issue of K-19 and PCV is moot. All 1968 L-88's were originally equipped with both.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Rick G.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 1, 1983
          • 273

          #19
          Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

          Hi Ray
          I agree with you. I was stationed at Travis AFB, CA in the early 1970 time frame. Most of my military friends had their cars registered in their home state. I don't recall any at the time purchasing a new car on an enlisted man's salary but if they did I would guess it would be registered in their home of record. California DMV fees were and still are among the highest in the nation.

          Joe & Bob, the original owner of the 1967 yellow/black L88 coupe said he was an officer on active duty at Travis AFB when he ordered the car through a dealership in Vallejo, CA. I know it was raced up and down the coast but do not know if it was ever registered in California.

          Rick



          Ray[/QUOTE]

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15670

            #20
            Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            Bob------

            I don't know if any 1967 L-88's were delivered to California. Certainly, considering the small number ever built, if there were any there were not too many. If none were delivered to California, then the K-19 issue is a moot point. However, the PCV system was required nationwide well before 1967. So, regardless of where delivered all cars had to have it. But, 1967 L-88's did not.

            For 1968 the issue of K-19 and PCV is moot. All 1968 L-88's were originally equipped with both.
            The '67 L-88 I helped disassemble in Seattle in the spring of '67 was bought through Alan Green Chevrolet, but the owner never registered it. It was delivered to his garage on a flatbed.

            Had he requested the dealer to register it would they have done it? Who knows, but if a '67 L-88, none of which (all 20) could be legally registered in the USA due to lack of a PCV system, was ever registered it probably would have fallen through the crack.

            Duke

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            • Rick G.
              Very Frequent User
              • March 1, 1983
              • 273

              #21
              Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

              The link below is from the 2018 Indy Mecum Auction where the California delivered 1967 yellow L88 coup did not meet the reserve. If the documentation is real, which appears to be so, the car was first registered in Nevada. Presumably the home state of the original owner, Robert Baker. This car has an interesting history.



              Rick

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              • Robert G.
                Expired
                • May 31, 1990
                • 429

                #22
                Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                Originally posted by Victor Ephrem (7450)
                Thanks Tom and Robert. Tom, is there something that makes you think the pad is suspect? Much appreciated.
                I'm not an expert on the pads but believe the 'C' ought to have a flat side to it like the '0'. Maybe it's ok. I thought someone else might have an opinion on it.

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                • Patrick B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1985
                  • 1995

                  #23
                  Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                  Originally posted by Robert Gallagher (17477)
                  I'm not an expert on the pads but believe the 'C' ought to have a flat side to it like the '0'. Maybe it's ok. I thought someone else might have an opinion on it.

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                  • Dick W.
                    Former NCRS Director Region IV
                    • June 30, 1985
                    • 10483

                    #24
                    Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                    The expert has spoken, take his comments to the bank
                    Dick Whittington

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                    • Ray K.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1985
                      • 370

                      #25
                      Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                      Mark's comments regarding L-88 registration " off road " " race car " and low production volume in my opinion offers up the most likely situation for registration of these vehicles. Many parts that we sold over the counter that were specifically listed in the H - D section or in the performance catalog contained the label " For Off Road Use Only " and so it seems to me that there would have been a escape clause for the registration of these cars under this guideline and maybe some document or similar attached to the MSO which offered direction to the state DMV allowing the cars to be registered without the normally required equipment.

                      Ray

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                      • Patrick B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1985
                        • 1995

                        #26

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                        • Bob B.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 31, 2007
                          • 524

                          #27
                          Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                          Every car we had raced with our dealer plates, California Slalom mid 70's to '80 Showroom Stock Corvette SSGT 87, 69 B Production GT-1 and finally
                          Trans Am and IMSA in mid to late 80's just for a laugh

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                          • Bob B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • January 31, 2007
                            • 524

                            #28
                            Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                            RAY K. Is this Ray K from Howard Chevrolet Newport Harbor Corvettes ???

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                            • Michael V.
                              Frequent User
                              • May 31, 1995
                              • 77

                              #29
                              Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                              Dave, thanks for teaching me something new today. Attached is a picture of the 1969 California registration for my 1967 Corvette that was delivered new at Baher Chevrolet Manhattan Beach, CA. And I see the 2 under the smog as you stated. The car still has its original smog on it and had it on it when I bought it the first time in 1976 which was rare in Washington state at the time.
                              Attached Files

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                              • Tim G.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • March 1, 1990
                                • 1375

                                #30
                                Re: California Delivered March 1967 without A.I.R?

                                Now that is some valuable information, Dave. Thank you.

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