C1 Cranking Signal Valve recommendation

[Florian W.]

I need to replace the CSV on my very original '60 Fuelie. I know the electric solenoid update is much more reliable, but am not going that route. Of the available sources for rebuilding valves, can anyone point to a source that offers a reasonably reliable part that looks original - ideally, not sandblasted or painted?

Thanks

[Don H.]

Re: C1 Cranking Signal Valve recommendation

Originals can be rebuilt and are supposed to be better than originals. You need to go through any of the F.I. people to have it done. PM me if you need more info. Don H.

[Jim L.]

Re: C1 Cranking Signal Valve recommendation

Contact John DeGregory. He has the best repro/rebuilt CSVs available.

[Florian W.]

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I had seen John's name spoken very highly of in many older posts, but I thought I also ran across one that had said he had passed some time back, no?

[Jim L.]

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I had seen John's name spoken very highly of in many older posts, but I thought I also ran across one that had said he had passed some time back, no?

If so, then I got email from his ghost over the weekend.

[Tom D.]

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A respected FI guy who worked at Rochester Products (Rick Boyd) is sadly gone due to a cancer.

[Mike M.]

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John degregory is alive and well, as of today. mike

[Joe R.]

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John DeGregory has lost a lot of weight but we Haven't lost him!

JR

[Florian W.]

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Well, that is good news - I'll give him a call. Thanks, everyone.

[John D.]

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Writing from heaven although maybe hell.
It's a wonder I have not died after restoring a '65 unit that sat in a barn for 40 years. Owner should receive it today. Guys an MD from MD.

Cranking signal valves. We need original cores to have them rebuilt. The old repros a lot of us sold are not rebuildable.
You can tell if you have an original CSV by looking at the back side of the round cover. It should have three crimps to help hold it on.
The original rebuild ones do not have these crimps. Don't even think about putting the crimps on your self as it will cause the valve to leak.

Rochester Products had a 75% failure rate in manufacturing these pesky valves. You won't read this anywhere.
Those of you that were at the regional sponsored by the Western NY chapter in early 90's know this. Frank Scibica etc had a fuel injection seminar.
Dr. Mike was there. Frank said they were not capable of mass producting a good working valve.
That's why so many FI's were taken off. Just that one part caused a failure.
Anyhow even though almost a 100 my health is decent as I lost a ton of weight restoring barn units. hahaha.

[Tom D.]

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By "original rebuild ones" do you mean "service parts from GM" ?

PN = 7017090

Thanks for the details!

Writing from heaven although maybe hell.
It's a wonder I have not died after restoring a '65 unit that sat in a barn for 40 years. Owner should receive it today. Guys an MD from MD.

Cranking signal valves. We need original cores to have them rebuilt. The old repros a lot of us sold are not rebuildable.
You can tell if you have an original CSV by looking at the back side of the round cover. It should have three crimps to help hold it on.
The original rebuild ones do not have these crimps. Don't even think about putting the crimps on your self as it will cause the valve to leak.

Rochester Products had a 75% failure rate in manufacturing these pesky valves. You won't read this anywhere.
Those of you that were at the regional sponsored by the Western NY chapter in early 90's know this. Frank Scibica etc had a fuel injection seminar.
Dr. Mike was there. Frank said they were not capable of mass producting a good working valve.
That's why so many FI's were taken off. Just that one part caused a failure.
Anyhow even though almost a 100 my health is decent as I lost a ton of weight restoring barn units. hahaha.

[Florian W.]

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Glad to hear that you're still with us, John!

It's going to be a couple of days before I'm near the car again to verify that it has an original part that can be used as a core. Once I do that, I'll contact you.

Thanks,
Rory

[John D.]

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Tom, Original valves made by RP and sold by over the counter. As long as they have three evenly spaced crimps on the back side.
The last ones Chevy sold fit that criteria except they were 100% Dichromate. Still restorable.

The old repros that were sold in the 90's and early 2000's were a soft casting. Broke easily at the threaded area. The round cover was spun on period. No crimps. They were not a great part. Hit and miss. Have a weird seat in them. Not an acceptable core.

Also friends. Not sure if I said this or not. Often I see a NOS one for sale on line. For almost $300.00 in the original box. That just makes me cringe because most likely it's no good. Except for a core.

[John D.]

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Thanks Rory

[Dick W.]

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John degregory is alive and well, as of today. mike

Doc Quack, ya gotta quit sending ChePhart those old units, ya gonna be the death of him.