64 Holley Carb

[James C.]

I need some help/advice - lost some config. points during Flight judging on the Holley Carb..
The judges felt that the date, part # stamping was not as it should be. The car is a Dec. 1963
production, carb I have is Sept. 63. I thought and could be wrong that the config. I have is
correct??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Jim

[Michael J.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

I assume the engine is an L76, thus the date looks OK (within 6 months prior), and an early carb would have the date code stamped on the right side of the choke flange, and the LIST 2818 and part number stamped on the left side as this one does. Maybe the judge didn't think a Sept. carb date is early? If not, all the stampings should be together on the left side and they may have thought it a re-stamp.

[Dan A.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

1. Was this judging at the chapter level?

1. What part of the configuration was questioned? Was it the locations of the air horn stampings?

[Michael J.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

BTW, here is a LIST 2818 394 dated Holley that has all the stampings on the left side of the air horn.

[James C.]

[Dan A.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

Did they not have a '63-4 judging manual to refer to?

I respectfully beg to differ. Very early 2818 Holleys do not have the typical stamping format. September is definitely very early. The judging manual describes this early aberration.

You should have challenged their "feeling". If they can't substantiate their "feeling", they can't take a deduction.

One of the frequent mistakes many owners make is failing to read both the judging manual and the Judging Reference Manual. The Judging Reference Manual outlines the appeal process which doesn't need to be adversarial. Unfortunately it is too late now.

[James C.]

[Michael J.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

It is always wise to make sure you understand each deduction, and make the judges explain it fully. Since many team leads encourage their judges to judge "beyond" the manual with their own experience and information, it is even more important to question what the underlying source of their information is, as it is not in the manual and could possibly vary from judge to judge. Good luck.

[Pancho T.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

I agree with Dan Adie. Early Holley carbs a different stamp for mat. Here is an example of an original

[Michael J.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

Notice that is 393, whereas the 394 was all on one side. Maybe that was the break over between early and late?

[Dan A.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

BTW, here is a LIST 2818 394 dated Holley that has all the stampings on the left side of the air horn.

The information in this post is unreliable for the following reasons.

This is what I will term a file photo an eBay seller uses in many of their auctions. The sellers id is ghostt.They have just over 100 items at auction at this time. Mostly Holley carbs. If you care to peruse them you will find they use the same photos over no mater the date or LIST number.Their auctions tend not to show a clear picture of the stampings.

The picture Michael has posted as a 2818 dated 394 is from ghostt's eVilbay auction https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-CORVET...sAAOxyq5NRB9XU ghostt has no less than 4 2818 & 2818-1 carbs at auction on eVilbay at this time. All using the same pictures.

From this photo the date and LIST number can not be determined. I do not accept that it is a 2818 dated 394.

On the other hand the photo posted by Poncho is a genuine example of an early 2818 stamp.

[Dino L.]

Re: 64 Holley Carb

Another example of a 64 L76 Holley mine has the raised S in List like the other photo.