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  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 31, 1997
    • 6978

    Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

    In a 2006 article by John Hinkley in the Corvette Enthusiast, he mentions the use of an anti-seize compound to facilitate installation of the rear crossmember on the sombrero mounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for what anti-seize to use that is compatible with rubber?


    Thanks,


    Gary
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43193

    #2
    Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

    Gary------


    All anti-seize compounds I know of contain petroleum compounds. So, theoretically, there is some potential incompatibility with rubber. However, I don't think it would be an issue, at least for as long as any of us, at this point, are going to be using these cars.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Dick W.
      Former NCRS Director Region IV
      • June 30, 1985
      • 10483

      #3
      Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

      Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
      In a 2006 article by John Hinkley in the Corvette Enthusiast, he mentions the use of an anti-seize compound to facilitate installation of the rear crossmember on the sombrero mounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for what anti-seize to use that is compatible with rubber?


      Thanks,


      Gary
      Neverseize
      Dick Whittington

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      • Gary B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 31, 1997
        • 6978

        #4
        Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

        Dick,

        As in "Never-Seez 30840652 Regular Grade"?
        Gary

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 31, 1997
          • 6978

          #5
          Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
          Gary------


          All anti-seize compounds I know of contain petroleum compounds. So, theoretically, there is some potential incompatibility with rubber. However, I don't think it would be an issue, at least for as long as any of us, at this point, are going to be using these cars.
          Joe,

          Yes, petroleum-based compounds and rubber incompatibility was my concern.

          Gary

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

            Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
            In a 2006 article by John Hinkley in the Corvette Enthusiast, he mentions the use of an anti-seize compound to facilitate installation of the rear crossmember on the sombrero mounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for what anti-seize to use that is compatible with rubber?


            Thanks,


            Gary
            Try silicone grease. The lubricating kind works best, not the electrical insulating kind (called dielectric grease). I think the lubricating kind is commonly sold as Sil-glide.
            Terry

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
              Try silicone grease. The lubricating kind works best, not the electrical insulating kind (called dielectric grease). I think the lubricating kind is commonly sold as Sil-glide.

              Terry-----


              That's actually exactly what I used.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 31, 1997
                • 6978

                #8
                Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                Thanks all.

                Gary

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                • Jack J.
                  Expired
                  • July 31, 2000
                  • 640

                  #9
                  Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we talking about metal to metal contact and not rubber to metal contact. I don't understand how any petroleum grease product could possibly effect the rubber portion of the sombrero since it, (the grease), is used to facilitate ease of insertion and prevent rust buld-up between the two metal contact surfaces should the sombreros need to be changed out in the future which is probably unlikely.

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 31, 1997
                    • 6978

                    #10
                    Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                    Jack,

                    The metal (quasi-hemisphere) sombrero that is part of the frame inserts into the mating rubber bushing of the removable crossmember. That junction is a bear to get apart during dis-assembly. And presumably also harder to re-assemble w/o a lubricant. So, no it is not metal to metal.

                    Gary

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                    • Duke W.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 31, 1992
                      • 15610

                      #11
                      Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                      Originally posted by Jack Jagello (34474)
                      Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we talking about metal to metal contact and not rubber to metal contact. I don't understand how any petroleum grease product could possibly effect the rubber portion of the sombrero since it, (the grease), is used to facilitate ease of insertion and prevent rust buld-up between the two metal contact surfaces should the sombreros need to be changed out in the future which is probably unlikely.
                      The frame "pad" is steel and the cushion is rubber, so the interface is rubber/steel, and I agree that a thin film of silicone grease as mentioned above should be applied to both surfaces, which should keep them from seizing, and silicone based grease will not attack the rubber.

                      Duke

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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 26, 2009
                        • 7071

                        #12
                        Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                        And make sure you put them in right side up......
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                        • Jack J.
                          Expired
                          • July 31, 2000
                          • 640

                          #13
                          Re: Rear crossmember sombrero mounts

                          Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                          Jack,

                          The metal (quasi-hemisphere) sombrero that is part of the frame inserts into the mating rubber bushing of the removable crossmember. That junction is a bear to get apart during dis-assembly. And presumably also harder to re-assemble w/o a lubricant. So, no it is not metal to metal.

                          Gary
                          Gary, thanks for the clarification. My reply was somewhat of a "senior moment". I was focused on the removal of the rubber bushing from the cross member. As I recall when I did mine the bushing's outer metal sleeve rusted/welded itself to the cross member's inner surface. Thanks again.

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