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  • Ronald R.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 31, 1989
    • 670

    1970 Interior dilemma

    I have nice seat covers with yellow foam coming thru poares, should I replace foam only or all? thanks RDR
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6942

    #2
    Re: 1970 Interior delima

    Ron, with everything almost 50 years old my advice is to replace it all, sometimes the old covers will be stretched over the new foam and the stitching may not hold up. if they are leather you may have a chance. its really your call on something like this. if the car is mostly original and you want the originality just live with it. My 72 had the same issue, foam tends to break down over the years and flatten out, there was such a difference with new foam (comfort), the repro covers are pretty close to original as far as grain and texture. colors may vary slightly black would be a easy color.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Terry M.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • September 30, 1980
      • 15599

      #3
      Re: 1970 Interior delima

      Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
      I have nice seat covers with yellow foam coming thru poares, should I replace foam only or all? thanks RDR
      You will have to decide, and tell us your decision, as to whether you intend to have the car judged; or not.

      If you are going to have the car judged you should know that ALL reproduction interior parts are easily detectable as NTFP. As you are aware from reading the TIM&JG.
      Terry

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      • Paul D.
        Very Frequent User
        • September 30, 1996
        • 491

        #4
        Re: 1970 Interior delima

        Also, since you say foam is coming through the covers, I assume you have standard comfort weave seat covers. If so, the foam is from the covers themslves and not the foam "buns" the covers are stretched over. A thin layer of foam is between the comfort weave vinyl and the heavy cloth it is sewn to. As Terry stated, all reproduction covers are a stamped pattern on vinyl instead of true comfort weave material. I suppose no one makes true comfort weave material now and that is a shame. Comfort weave vinyl was much better in hot weather than solid vinyl or leather. Chip.

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        • Leonard M.
          Very Frequent User
          • September 7, 2009
          • 236

          #5
          Re: 1970 Interior delima

          Read through this thread; look at my pictures and what I wrote.
          https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?121827-Old-seat-covers
          I agree with Terry that the originals are superior. Most members choose not to do some restoration on their cars.

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          • Patrick B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1985
            • 1995

            #6
            Re: 1970 Interior delima

            Ronnie --- As Paul said, the foam buns are not the problem. The comfort weave seat covers on a 70 have foam sown into them to make the pleats and it is this foam that hardens and becomes powdery, leaking pollen-like dust thru the weave. Later comfort weave seat covers from about 1975 look identical to 70s but are not subject to this problem because a material resembling a grey carpet pad was used instead of foam rubber to form the pleats. The best solution is to find NOS GM seat covers made after about 1975. I have heard that a good upholstery shop can remove the deteriorated foam from the seat covers and sew in the carpet pad material but I do not know where to go for that.

            I bought a set of new seat covers from the parts dept for my 70 in the late 70's to have in case I ever needed them. When my seat covers started to have the continuing yellow dust problem, I unpacked the new covers I had hoarded for 30 years only to discover that they gave me 3 bottoms and only one back by mistake but they were the superior 1975 style covers without the foam rubber and they still look great. If you find any black NOS covers I will be happy to buy an extra back or trade for my extra bottom.

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            • Ronald R.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 1989
              • 670

              #7
              Re: 1970 Interior delima

              Thanks guys, i do intend to have the car judged and I have a rebuild procedure a member BILL sent me. thanks again Ronnie

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              • Patrick B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1985
                • 1995

                #8
                Re: 1970 Interior delima

                Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
                Thanks guys, i do intend to have the car judged and I have a rebuild procedure a member BILL sent me. thanks again Ronnie

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                • Ronald R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • May 31, 1989
                  • 670

                  #9
                  Re: 1970 Interior delima

                  Pat PM your email thanks Ronnie

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                  • James G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 22, 2018
                    • 800

                    #10
                    Re: 1970 Interior delima

                    SMS in OREGON has 100% Correct ORIGINAL COMFORTWEAVE by the yard in MANY COLORS.

                    I just had seat covers for a Camaro sewn from original NOS material.
                    There is A HUGE DIFFERENCE between the ACTUAL PRODUCT and the best reproduction "comfortweave" (which is nothing more than a heat stamped vinyl appearing to mimic the "appearance" of comfortweave).

                    Attached Files
                    James A Groome
                    1971 LT1 11130 - https://photos.app.goo.gl/zSoFz24JMPXw5Ffi9 - the black LT1
                    1971 LT1 21783 - 3 STAR Preservation.- https://photos.app.goo.gl/wMRDJgmyDyAwc9Nh8 - Brandshatch Green LT1
                    My first gen Camaro research http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.p...owposts;u=4337
                    Posts on Yenko boards... https://www.yenko.net/forum/search.php?searchid=826453

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11643

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 Interior delima

                      Originally posted by James Groome (65120)
                      SMS in OREGON has 100% Correct ORIGINAL COMFORTWEAVE by the yard in MANY COLORS.

                      I just had seat covers for a Camaro sewn from original NOS material.
                      There is A HUGE DIFFERENCE between the ACTUAL PRODUCT and the best reproduction "comfortweave" (which is nothing more than a heat stamped vinyl appearing to mimic the "appearance" of comfortweave).
                      How long did it take to get SMS to make you a set?
                      I've heard that one best be prepared to wait a while, as "speed" is not a word in their vocabulary.
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Ronald R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1989
                        • 670

                        #12
                        Re: 1970 Interior delima

                        I used the proceedure above to restore mine and they look great!!! Ronnie

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                        • Ron G.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1984
                          • 865

                          #13
                          Re: 1970 Interior delima

                          Ron,

                          Just my 2 cents. Usually aftermarket seat foam has a different configuration than originals. They seem to be puffy looking compared to the originals and are easily detectable.

                          - Ron
                          "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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                          • Ronald R.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 31, 1989
                            • 670

                            #14
                            Re: 1970 Interior delima

                            The seat pads were fine the thin pads in the seats were coming apart. These look nice and will judge fine! thanks RDR

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                            • James G.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • August 22, 2018
                              • 800

                              #15
                              Re: 1970 Interior delima

                              Ordered in Feb, delivered month... promised in April.
                              I warned my brother to buy the fabric and have the local guys sew them up.

                              PERSONALLY I am thinking about buying a couple of yards of bright blue and a couple of red because I will inevitably buy a car with one or the other and never be able to find correct fabric. FWIW they are charging $170 per yard. .
                              James A Groome
                              1971 LT1 11130 - https://photos.app.goo.gl/zSoFz24JMPXw5Ffi9 - the black LT1
                              1971 LT1 21783 - 3 STAR Preservation.- https://photos.app.goo.gl/wMRDJgmyDyAwc9Nh8 - Brandshatch Green LT1
                              My first gen Camaro research http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.p...owposts;u=4337
                              Posts on Yenko boards... https://www.yenko.net/forum/search.php?searchid=826453

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