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  • Garry B.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 1991
    • 660

    Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

    I have located a master cylinder for my '64 with PS and it has the part number cast in the bottom and the 7/8 at the front of the unit, but there doesn't appear to be a date. Did all of them come with dates? Were there service units available later on that would have been configured this way? Thanks.
    Last edited by Garry B.; May 26, 2019, 09:28 AM.
    Garry Barnes #18531
    '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
    ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


  • Garry B.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 1991
    • 660

    #2
    Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

    With Don Hooper's help I believe we have solved the mystery. Thanks Don.
    Garry Barnes #18531
    '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
    ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


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    • Leif A.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1997
      • 3627

      #3
      Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

      Do you mind sharing the resolution with the rest of us?
      Leif
      '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
      Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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      • Garry B.
        Very Frequent User
        • January 1, 1991
        • 660

        #4
        Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

        Leif, I was looking for the date location near the 7/8 mark at the front of the unit based on this text from the JM version 6,

        Any thoughts on how to determine the date on this one? Leif, I hope that answers your question.
        Garry
        Garry Barnes #18531
        '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
        ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6942

          #5
          Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

          Garry, the number 307 is 307th day of 64.
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Patrick C.
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            • January 16, 2013
            • 327

            #6
            Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

            How do we tell it is the 307th day of 64? Would there be some other difference for the 307th day of ‘63?

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            • Garry B.
              Very Frequent User
              • January 1, 1991
              • 660

              #7
              Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

              Patrick, that's my question as well. Another thought is if you use the Julian Calendar and put in 3 0 7 you get November 3th, in 1963 or November 4th in 1964, but I couldn't tell you if that is what it is either. Again, how do you know what year?

              One thing that is clear is what text is in the 6th edition of the JM is grossly incorrect based on what we are finding.
              Garry Barnes #18531
              '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
              ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


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              • Patrick C.
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                • January 16, 2013
                • 327

                #8
                Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

                My ‘64 was judged three weeks ago and no deducts on the master cylinder. I will dig up the pictures later tonight and post them. Mine is a January 64 build date.

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                • Patrick C.
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                  • January 16, 2013
                  • 327

                  #9
                  Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery



                  Im not sure this is helpful. Looks like mine has a date of 255 with a 3 underneath. Sorry this is the best picture I could find. Still not sure how you tell if its manufactured in 1963 or 1964.
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                  • Edward J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 15, 2008
                    • 6942

                    #10
                    Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

                    Guys, its my understanding that the Julian date is used without a year, that's how the JM reads. unlike 63 master cylinder does use a year.
                    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                    • Garry B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 1, 1991
                      • 660

                      #11
                      Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

                      Ed, I think you are right. They must have changed the JM since the fifth edition because it reads, "The casting date is in a MDDY format (Example:B 18 4= Feb. 18, 1964)". I know this is an older version of the JM, but thought for sure after five iterations of the JM this would have been caught and correct. This is what started my inquiry in the first place. I have checked mine and the part number is there but I can't read the date. It was restored at one time and the casting is just too tough to see. Thanks for the pic Patrick.
                      Garry Barnes #18531
                      '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
                      ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


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                      • Alan D.
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                        • January 1, 2005
                        • 2038

                        #12
                        Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

                        My original is dated 337 with a "4" under neath it. It is a J65 power system, been through all the numbers of each wheel all good. Did find one wheel cylinder which (I knew) got replaced. Owner car since Aug 67.
                        May not help but can be used as a baseline. sorry about poor photo's
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                        Last edited by Alan D.; May 27, 2019, 02:07 PM.

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                        • Garry B.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 1, 1991
                          • 660

                          #13
                          Re: Date code for original '64 master cylinder mystery

                          Patrick, amazingly I was able to stand on my head and read my master cylinder and it was manufactured the same 255th day as yours. There is a number under it which I believe is a 3, but can't really see it well enough to be sure.
                          Garry Barnes #18531
                          '67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
                          ​'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,


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