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  • Donald H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 2, 2009
    • 2580

    What is this oil filter canister for?

    A friend just gave me a couple of NOS filter canisters. The one of the left in the picture is typical of corvette and other chevy V8s.

    The one on the right has red decal and says Type PM-16-1 versus PM-16 on the left. Both are for PF141 filters.

    Also the bolt is shorter, so I'm not sure how it would or could fit a chevy V8.

    Anyone know what this was for?

    Thanks,

    Don
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    Don Harris
    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)
  • Keith B.
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    • September 15, 2014
    • 1582

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43219

      #3
      Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

      Originally posted by Donald Harris (51003)
      A friend just gave me a couple of NOS filter canisters. The one of the left in the picture is typical of corvette and other chevy V8s.

      The one on the right has red decal and says Type PM-16-1 versus PM-16 on the left. Both are for PF141 filters.

      Also the bolt is shorter, so I'm not sure how it would or could fit a chevy V8.

      Anyone know what this was for?

      Thanks,

      Don
      Don------


      The PM-16 was used for applications utilizing a remote oil filter (i.e not engine mounted). I think this was mostly trucks. I don't know of any passenger cars utilizing it. However, there may have been other non-Chevrolet applications for it, too.
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      • Donald H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 2, 2009
        • 2580

        #4
        Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
        Don------


        The PM-16 was used for applications utilizing a remote oil filter (i.e not engine mounted). I think this was mostly trucks. I don't know of any passenger cars utilizing it. However, there may have been other non-Chevrolet applications for it, too.
        Joe, sorry I don't understand your reply. Type PM-16 is the "standard" engine mounted PF141 filter canister that goes on the 58-67 (I think) Corvettes and I assume many other Chevrolet vehicles (picture on the left).

        The one on the right looks like it also mounts to an engine put is labelled Type PM-16-1 and also uses PF141 filter.
        Don Harris
        Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
        Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 1, 1997
          • 7018

          #5
          Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

          Don,

          I think this is an example of how the PM-16-1 mounts off-engine.

          Gary

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43219

            #6
            Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

            Originally posted by Donald Harris (51003)
            Joe, sorry I don't understand your reply. Type PM-16 is the "standard" engine mounted PF141 filter canister that goes on the 58-67 (I think) Corvettes and I assume many other Chevrolet vehicles (picture on the left).

            The one on the right looks like it also mounts to an engine put is labelled Type PM-16-1 and also uses PF141 filter.
            Don------


            Well, the information I have is confusing regarding the "PM" designations. However, the canister on the left (with the long bolt) is a standard canister used on 1958-67 Corvette V-8 engines. The canister on the right (with shorter bolt) is for remote oil filter applications as pictured in Gary's photo. Actually, I believe the two canisters are the same and only the bolt is different.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Donald H.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • November 2, 2009
              • 2580

              #7
              Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

              Thanks, makes sense now.
              Don Harris
              Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
              Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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              • Ray K.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 31, 1985
                • 370

                #8
                Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                All,

                The PM-16-1 oil canister is P & A cataloged for application with 1962 Series 10 -30 trucks with 261 cu in engine and also 1963 4WD trucks with the 261 engine. This was the large 6 cylinder engine as used in medium duty trucks but also offered at times as an option in the lighter duty pickups These engines did not have a provision for an oil filter attachment directly to the block and so the remote mounting system was used for this application and required the PF-141 filter element. I agree with Joe that the bolt is the probably the only difference between the 2 canisters.

                Ray

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                • Ara G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 31, 2008
                  • 1108

                  #9
                  Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                  It sure is cool looking though....ARA

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                  • Donald H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 2, 2009
                    • 2580

                    #10
                    Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                    Curiosity got the best of me, so I did some more searching. Here's a picture of the 261 6-cylinder engine with the ports for oil in and oil out bosses for the external filter and housing (circled in red).

                    very interesting!

                    Don
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                    Don Harris
                    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                    • Richard G.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 31, 1984
                      • 1715

                      #11
                      Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                      Easy to forget how times have changed.
                      My first car a 1956 Chevy had the 6 cylinder and the "optional" oil filter.
                      I beleve it was clamped or bolted to the intake manifold.
                      After you pulled the filter out you had a tub of old oil still in the filter housing as only the top came off.

                      Many small aircraft do not come with oil filters from the factory.
                      However, it it typical to change the oil after 25 hours of operation.
                      Rick

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43219

                        #12
                        Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                        Originally posted by Richard Geier (7745)
                        Easy to forget how times have changed.
                        My first car a 1956 Chevy had the 6 cylinder and the "optional" oil filter.
                        I beleve it was clamped or bolted to the intake manifold.
                        After you pulled the filter out you had a tub of old oil still in the filter housing as only the top came off.

                        Many small aircraft do not come with oil filters from the factory.
                        However, it it typical to change the oil after 25 hours of operation.
                        Rick
                        Rick------


                        You can still get filter elements for those filters but not from AC Delco. Fram carries them, though, under their number C4.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Jim L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • September 30, 1979
                          • 1808

                          #13
                          Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                          Originally posted by Ray Kimminau (8917)
                          All,

                          The PM-16-1 oil canister is P & A cataloged for application with 1962 Series 10 -30 trucks with 261 cu in engine and also 1963 4WD trucks with the 261 engine. This was the large 6 cylinder engine as used in medium duty trucks but also offered at times as an option in the lighter duty pickups
                          Well, this is new news. The 261 continued to be manufactured on into 1963, after the newer generation 230/250 series engines were available? What was the last year for the older 261-style engine?

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                          • Ray K.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 1985
                            • 370

                            #14
                            Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                            The Wix filter part number for the PF-141 is Wix #51143, which is readily available.

                            The new generation 6 cylinder engines ( 194, 230, 250, & 292 ) were introduced in 1963. For some unknown reason, Chevrolet installed the older style 235 cu.in ( early production ) or the 261 cu. in. ( later production ) in all 1963 Series 10 - 20 pickups with 4WD.

                            Ray

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43219

                              #15
                              Re: What is this oil filter canister for?

                              Originally posted by Ray Kimminau (8917)
                              The Wix filter part number for the PF-141 is Wix #51143, which is readily available.

                              The new generation 6 cylinder engines ( 194, 230, 250, & 292 ) were introduced in 1963. For some unknown reason, Chevrolet installed the older style 235 cu.in ( early production ) or the 261 cu. in. ( later production ) in all 1963 Series 10 - 20 pickups with 4WD.

                              Ray
                              Ray-----


                              The 1955-1956 Chevrolet passenger car application that Rich described in his post #11, above, did not use a PF-141 (or PF-131) oil filter element. It used a filter element known as a P-115, aka GM #5572288. Like the PF-141, it's GM discontinued but available from aftermarket brands like Fram and Wix. I wonder how many of these things they sell these days?

                              Here's an example of the filter:

                              Last edited by Joe L.; March 17, 2019, 03:12 PM. Reason: add filter link
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