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  • Perry M.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 31, 1976
    • 325

    spark plug wire help

    I recently purchased some Packard 440 spark plug wire and proceeded to make my own wire set. I used the terminals and boots from my LL wire set as suggested but I am having trouble getting the terminals to stay attached. What is the secret to crimping the terminals to stay attached. Is there a special tool or die to use on the straight terminal for the distributor end. I can't seem to get the terminal to "bite" into the wire jacket. I have a crimper that works on the spark plug terminal. I would also like some advice as to how do you solder the wire to the terminal without burning the wire jacket.
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43194

    #2
    Re: spark plug wire help

    Originally posted by Perry Mitchell (1239)
    I recently purchased some Packard 440 spark plug wire and proceeded to make my own wire set. I used the terminals and boots from my LL wire set as suggested but I am having trouble getting the terminals to stay attached. What is the secret to crimping the terminals to stay attached. Is there a special tool or die to use on the straight terminal for the distributor end. I can't seem to get the terminal to "bite" into the wire jacket. I have a crimper that works on the spark plug terminal. I would also like some advice as to how do you solder the wire to the terminal without burning the wire jacket.
    Perry------


    The problem that you're having is exactly why I would never attempt to make up a wire set from bulk wire and connectors. Even if you are successful in making up the wire set, I think you'll find that it's unreliable in the long run. I use only factory assembled wire sets.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Jimmy G.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 31, 1979
      • 975

      #3
      Re: spark plug wire help

      Summit sell a special crimping tool for spark plug wires. I have made several 440 sets with no issue. They are much better than repo or service wires.
      Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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      • Dick W.
        Former NCRS Director Region IV
        • June 30, 1985
        • 10483

        #4
        Re: spark plug wire help

        I have this crimper that works wonderful MSD 35051

        Attached Files
        Dick Whittington

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        • Perry M.
          Very Frequent User
          • December 31, 1976
          • 325

          #5
          Re: spark plug wire help

          I have a crimper like the one shown but it will not crimp the distributor terminal like the one pictured here.
          Attached Files

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: spark plug wire help

            Originally posted by Perry Mitchell (1239)
            I have a crimper like the one shown but it will not crimp the distributor terminal like the one pictured here.
            I use a pair of duck bill pliers for that terminal
            Dick Whittington

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            • John M.
              Expired
              • December 31, 1997
              • 813

              #7
              Re: spark plug wire help

              I soldered the Packard 440 to the terminals. Pretty easy and permanent. These wires have tinned copper core wires which are Not recommended for the newer TI modules.

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              • Mark E.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 1993
                • 4498

                #8
                Re: spark plug wire help

                Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                I use a pair of duck bill pliers for that terminal
                For crimping spark plug terminals, I recommend using the tool for this purpose. Google "spark plug wire crimping tool". Summit sells them.
                This tool creates a clean crimp which will withstand pulling on the wire while removing it.

                I don't often disagree with Joe, but with this tool you can create a durable cable set with the exact lengths you need. Most pre-cut sets are just too long for a clean installation.

                Also, I don't recommend old-school Packard 440 wire unless the car will be judged and you plan to add the required markings. Modern spiral core cables are the way to go. Solid cores suffer from cross firing, while spiral cores virtually eliminate this problem. You'll notice the difference during idle. I've had great results with Taylor's "Spiro-Pro" line.
                Mark Edmondson
                Dallas, Texas
                Texas Chapter

                1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                • John D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • November 30, 1979
                  • 5507

                  #9
                  Re: spark plug wire help

                  Here's my game plan for my neglected '63, LWC.
                  I bought a set of NOS Delco Ignition set. Gr. 2.239 #2987482. 90 degree ends for the distributor cap.
                  All black terminal ends. Putting them on my '63 this winter. Bought them on Ebay. Joe Lucia gave me the part number years ago. John D

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                  • William F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 9, 2009
                    • 1354

                    #10
                    Re: spark plug wire help

                    Right Mark. Get spiral core wires. Some (maybe all) electronic trigger devices such as Pertronix say do not use solid core wires.

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                    • Mark E.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • March 31, 1993
                      • 4498

                      #11
                      Re: spark plug wire help

                      Originally posted by John DeGregory (2855)
                      Here's my game plan for my neglected '63, LWC.
                      I bought a set of NOS Delco Ignition set. Gr. 2.239 #2987482. 90 degree ends for the distributor cap.
                      All black terminal ends. Putting them on my '63 this winter. Bought them on Ebay. Joe Lucia gave me the part number years ago. John D
                      Again, that's a good plan for a car which may be judged.

                      But there are better cables for performance.
                      Last edited by Mark E.; December 27, 2018, 03:06 PM.
                      Mark Edmondson
                      Dallas, Texas
                      Texas Chapter

                      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                      • Gary B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 31, 1997
                        • 6984

                        #12
                        Re: spark plug wire help

                        Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                        For crimping spark plug terminals, I recommend using the tool for this purpose. Google "spark plug wire crimping tool". Summit sells them.
                        This tool creates a clean crimp which will withstand pulling on the wire while removing it.

                        I don't often disagree with Joe, but with this tool you can create a durable cable set with the exact lengths you need. Most pre-cut sets are just too long for a clean installation.

                        Also, I don't recommend old-school Packard 440 wire unless the car will be judged and you plan to add the required markings. Modern spiral core cables are the way to go. Solid cores suffer from cross firing, while spiral cores virtually eliminate this problem. You'll notice the difference during idle. I've had great results with Taylor's "Spiro-Pro" line.
                        Mark,

                        Is there a a Taylor Spiral Pro set that is good-to-go out of the box for a '66 small block Corvette? If so, do you know the Taylor part number?

                        Gary

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • January 31, 1988
                          • 43194

                          #13
                          Re: spark plug wire help

                          Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                          Again, that's a good plan for a car which may be judged.

                          But there are better cables for performance.
                          Mark-----


                          The set that John has will work PERFECTLY in all respects.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Chris H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • March 31, 2000
                            • 837

                            #14
                            Re: spark plug wire help

                            John, what wires do you recommend when using the new TI modules? Thanks, Chris
                            1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                            • John M.
                              Expired
                              • December 31, 1997
                              • 813

                              #15

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