65 steering stabilizer
My 65 350 hp non power steering has no stabilizer sock, I have had this car since 65 I know the oil pan makes a difference but the J/B only list 365 hp an up that does not have the stabilizer. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
Dale------
It's possible that some non-power steering 1965 L-79 were equipped with the "6 quart" oil pan. If so, these would not be equipped with the steering stabilizer. Do you know which pan your engine has? If not, if you could post a photo of it, we could tell you.In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
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Like Joe said post a photo of the pan and state the VIN sequence number (last five digits). It's always been my understanding that early 350 HP engines had the "big" pan, but not long after production started it was decided to add power steering as an option with the 350 HP engine, and that dictated use of the "small" pan.
They are easy to differentiate. The small pan deep sump section extends about half the length of the pan, and three-quarts the length for the big pan.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
Thanks for your help Joe This is the oil pan it is the original pan. the ser. # is 100667 I have had the car since 1965 been in the garage since 1972 trying to do a total restoration everything is original except radiator. Thanks for your help.
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Thanks Duke the ser# 100667 I posted a picture not sure how it came out. thanks again.Comment
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Everything original, great. Please post photo of alternator case, markings on fan belt, whatever views you can on the mufflers and clamps, carpet in drivers foot well area behind pedals, oil pressure gauge, outboard seat belts (no retractors), door hinge pillar area on both sides, and area where voltage regulator mounts.
Is body AO Smith? Also rear view mirror if you have back up lights.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
Dale------
This looks like the "5 quart" oil pan to me.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Current Corvettes owned 1957 two top stealth 383 dual quads--1965 original low mileage 300 h.p. coupe.
Other Corvettes owned over the years:
1954. 1957 AIRBOX FI. Two 1958s one FI, One 2x4. 1961. 1964 convertible A/C auto trans. Two 1965s one coupe with 300 h.p. loaded A/C car, one 365 h.p. convertible Two 1966s one loaded A/C, BB coupe one loaded A/C, SB coupe. Two 1968s one BB convert, 1969 BB coupe. 1971. 1973. 1978 L-82. 1985, 1986 both 4+3s.Comment
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
It's not clear to me because of the perspective of the photo, but I think it's the standard 4-quart capacity pan, not the 5-quart capacity pan used on mechanical lifter cams. The 4 and 5 quart number are the actual capacities of the pans. The oil filter holds about a quart, so total system capacity is 5 and 6 quarts, respectively.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
Duke------
To avoid possible confusion, I always use SYSTEM capacity when describing these oil pans. Also, the capacity of these oil pans is much greater than 4 or 5 quarts. It's only 4 or 5 quarts when filled to "full" mark on the dipstick. That's well below the actual liquid capacity of the pan.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
This appears to me as being a standard 4 quart pan - making it a 5 quart oil capacity system. The P & A catalogs make a clear distinction that the mechanical lifter engines utilized the larger 6 quart system oil pan.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
Thanks Duke unless the dip stick is incorrect, its a 5 qt. system total. But this car has never been worked on other than myself or GM when it was under warranty, and their has never been a steering stabilizer on the car. Thanks again for the response.Comment
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
As a corollary to the above it was probably a couple of years after I took delivery of my new SWC that I noticed it didn't have a steering damper. but since it didn't seem to affect steering, I didn't worry about it. I figured the plant just "forgot" to install it like they didn't install the upper radiator mount rubber grommet, which resulted in electrical conductively between the radiator and ground and corroded the radiator through in about ten years.
It was not until years later that I realized that SHP/FI engines could not accept the steering damper because the longer deep section of the "big" 5-quart pan occupied the space for the steering damper or power steering hydraulic cylinder.
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Re: 65 steering stabilizer
For the same reason, avoiding confusion, I always refer to the oil pans as 4 and 5 quart capacities, which is their specified capacity with the dip stick reading "full", and then specify the system capacity as 5 and six quarts, respectively, since the original cartridge type filter holds about a quart.
This is also made clear in owner's manuals by specifying the oil change refill capacity as 4 without an oil filter change and 5 with a filter change for small pan engines and 5 and 6, respectively for big pan engines.
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