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  • Mark E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1993
    • 4503

    1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

    I have an opportunity to buy a 1969 battery compartment cut out from its donor car's floor to replace the compartment in a 1970.

    Are these two compartments for MY69 and MY70 the same?

    I know the holes for the cables moved around year to year, but are they in the same location for 1969 and 1970?
    The entire bottom of the 1970's compartment is missing, so I don't have it as a reference. Page 215 of the 1970-72 JG has a photo of the negative cable, but no information for the positive cable. A photo showing the bottom of the overall box for MY70 would be great.

    Any other differences?

    Thanks again guys!
    Mark Edmondson
    Dallas, Texas
    Texas Chapter

    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top
  • Lawrence M.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 1995
    • 404

    #2
    Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

    Mark,
    In 1970 the battery was turned around so the cables attached with the battery facing the rear of the compartment. I'm thinking the battery hold down on the bottom of the battery compartment would have also changed.
    Larry
    2002 Z51 Convertible
    1969 L46 Convertible

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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1993
      • 4503

      #3
      Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

      Originally posted by Lawrence Merchantz (25805)
      Mark,
      In 1970 the battery was turned around so the cables attached with the battery facing the rear of the compartment. I'm thinking the battery hold down on the bottom of the battery compartment would have also changed.
      Thanks for the heads up. That's a big difference. Is the hold down hardware different too?

      I ask because I can relocate holes. Hardware is a show stopper.
      Mark Edmondson
      Dallas, Texas
      Texas Chapter

      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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      • Lawrence M.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 1995
        • 404

        #4
        Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

        Mark, I do not know if the hardware changed. I would think the battery hold down hardware itself stayed the same as the late 69 and 1970 batteries were the same.
        Larry
        2002 Z51 Convertible
        1969 L46 Convertible

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43202

          #5
          Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

          Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
          Thanks for the heads up. That's a big difference. Is the hold down hardware different too?

          I ask because I can relocate holes. Hardware is a show stopper.
          Mark------

          The hold-down hardware and its installation location are the same. The battery cables are different.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Mark E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1993
            • 4503

            #6
            Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

            Thanks Joe.
            Mark Edmondson
            Dallas, Texas
            Texas Chapter

            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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            • Mark E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1993
              • 4503

              #7
              Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

              New development: My source, Gulf Coast Corvette, also has several '74 and newer boxes available.

              Would these be the same as a 1970 battery box?
              Mark Edmondson
              Dallas, Texas
              Texas Chapter

              1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
              1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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              • Mark E.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1993
                • 4503

                #8
                Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                Any help with this question is appreciated.
                Mark Edmondson
                Dallas, Texas
                Texas Chapter

                1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43202

                  #9
                  Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                  Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                  Any help with this question is appreciated.
                  Mark------


                  First of all, the battery box was not a separate component; it was part of a much larger underbody fiberglass panel. I believe it would be extremely difficult to replace that complete panel.

                  However, if you are talking about removing the battery box section of a donor panel and "grafting" this section onto your car, that's another story. I think it would still be difficult to do properly and virtually impossible to do it in an undetectable manner, but it could be done. In that regard, I believe the battery box section from any 1968-75 Corvette will work OK. Even later to about 1977 ought to work, too.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Mark E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1993
                    • 4503

                    #10
                    Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                    Joe,

                    The bottom of the existing box is missing. So I intend to cut a seam in the existing box, trim the donor box accordingly, then splice it in. It's been awhile, but I've done this repair twice before with good result. If the fiberglass work is clean, the work is detectable but only if you're looking for it.

                    I think you're saying the shape of the box is the same 68-75. But what about location of the cable holes and design of the hold-down hardware? We learned from the posts above the orientation of the battery changed in 1970.

                    So does this mean 1970-1975 boxes are the same? Including box shape, cable hole locations, hold-down hardware...
                    Mark Edmondson
                    Dallas, Texas
                    Texas Chapter

                    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43202

                      #11
                      Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                      Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                      Joe,

                      The bottom of the existing box is missing. So I intend to cut a seam in the existing box, trim the donor box accordingly, then splice it in. It's been awhile, but I've done this repair twice before with good result. If the fiberglass work is clean, the work is detectable but only if you're looking for it.

                      I think you're saying the shape of the box is the same 68-75. But what about location of the cable holes and design of the hold-down hardware? We learned from the posts above the orientation of the battery changed in 1970.

                      So does this mean 1970-1975 boxes are the same? Including box shape, cable hole locations, hold-down hardware...
                      Mark------


                      As far as I know, the configuration of the box is the same for 1968-75. The hold-down hardware and location is the same. However, I do not know about the holes for the cables. There may be some difference in that respect, although I fully expect the 1970-75 to be the same in regard to cable holes.

                      If you've done it before, I guess you ought to know but I do not understand how this repair could be done with near undetectability.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Mark E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1993
                        • 4503

                        #12
                        Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                        One trick is to place the seam as high as possible where it's hard to see.

                        I would greatly appreciate if someone would post a photo of the bottom of a 1970-75 battery box. I'd like to see the location of the cable holes.
                        Mark Edmondson
                        Dallas, Texas
                        Texas Chapter

                        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                        • Mark E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1993
                          • 4503

                          #13
                          Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                          Well, sometimes you just need to do your own research.

                          I'll look at battery boxes and cable hole locations at the upcoming Frisco Regional and report back.
                          Mark Edmondson
                          Dallas, Texas
                          Texas Chapter

                          1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                          1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                          • Dallas K.
                            Frequent User
                            • March 1, 2003
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Re: 1969 vs 1970 Battery Compartment

                            Mark, Call me. 316 200 4125

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