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  • Walter R.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 6, 2009
    • 271

    427 Block

    Is there any difference in a 427 block with 425 HP and block with 390 HP?
  • Roy S.
    Past National Judging Chairman
    • July 31, 1979
    • 1025

    #2
    Re: 427 Block

    Short answer Yes. I will leave it to the experts to explain.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43219

      #3
      Re: 427 Block

      Originally posted by Walter Rowe (49838)
      Is there any difference in a 427 block with 425 HP and block with 390 HP?
      Walter------

      The block CASTINGS are the same. The difference is in the machining of the blocks. The L-36 block is machined for 2 bolt main bearing caps; the L-72 is machined for 4 bolt main bearing caps. In addition, for the L-72 there is machining in the area above the oil filter for oil cooler plumbing. For the L-36 there generally is not such machining. I've heard of some L-36 blocks being found with it, though.

      An interesting side note: the bearing caps on 4 bolt main engines were not made of the same material as the block. The block was made of gray cast iron; the main caps were made of ductile/malleable iron, a much stronger material. For the 2 bolt caps, I'm not sure. I don't know if they were gray iron, nodular iron, or ductile/malleable iron.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Walter R.
        Very Frequent User
        • January 6, 2009
        • 271

        #4
        Re: 427 Block

        Thanks Joe and Roy,
        I should have mentioned that mine has 4 bolt main and I knew that differentiated the 390 from the 425. Bought block about 5 years ago and when I purchased I knew the 4 bolt differentiated the two engines but I had forgot. One other thing is the block I have is standard bore and no markings on the engine pad. I know that could mean the engine was decked or the stamping was sanded off but I don't think so as pad looks extremely consistent. I was told this is probably a service block as they came with no stamping on the pad. Your comment would be appreciated.

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        • Roy S.
          Past National Judging Chairman
          • July 31, 1979
          • 1025

          #5
          Re: 427 Block

          Post a picture of the engine pad deck surface! Or send it to me as a private message if you do not know how to post or do not want to post a picture.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43219

            #6
            Re: 427 Block

            Originally posted by Walter Rowe (49838)
            Thanks Joe and Roy,
            I should have mentioned that mine has 4 bolt main and I knew that differentiated the 390 from the 425. Bought block about 5 years ago and when I purchased I knew the 4 bolt differentiated the two engines but I had forgot. One other thing is the block I have is standard bore and no markings on the engine pad. I know that could mean the engine was decked or the stamping was sanded off but I don't think so as pad looks extremely consistent. I was told this is probably a service block as they came with no stamping on the pad. Your comment would be appreciated.
            Walter------


            Yes, SERVICE bare or fitted blocks usually had no numbers stamped on the engine pad.

            I have heard of other cases, though, in which 1966 L-36 originally had 4 bolt mains. 1966 Chevelles with L-34 (360 HP) usually had 4 bolt mains. The L-34 is the 396 cid equivalent of the L-36.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7119

              #7
              Re: 427 Block

              I have heard of replacement long block assemblies with the plant, assembly date and suffix on the pad.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Walter R.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 6, 2009
                • 271

                #8
                Re: 427 Block

                Engine in machine shop. Will post when available. Thanks.

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                • Justin S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • July 3, 2013
                  • 291

                  #9
                  Re: 427 Block

                  Joe,
                  Wouldn't the valve reliefs be cut on a 425 hp block as well?

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43219

                    #10
                    Re: 427 Block

                    Originally posted by Justin Sibbring (58615)
                    Joe,
                    Wouldn't the valve reliefs be cut on a 425 hp block as well?
                    Justin------

                    Yes.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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