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  • Keith R.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 2001
    • 660

    Cigarette lighter won't stay in

    Checking out the electrics to see if everything is functioning as it should and found that the cigarette lighter won't stay in - it just pops right back out before it has time to heat up. Anyone know what the fix is?
    Keith MacRae
    NCRS #36692
    New Mexico Chapter
    1960 290HP FI
    2013 427 Convertible

    Shade tree mechanic and
    B-52 pilot extraordinaire
  • Donald H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 1, 2009
    • 2580

    #2
    Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

    First DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.

    If you look at the attached picture, the arrow points to a retainer/prong at the base of the lighter housing. using a small flat blade screw driver, bend these prongs in a little. Then test. Do a little at a time. If you bend them to much, the lighter can get stuck and will burn up the element. If the lighter stays in, don't leave it more than 10 or 15 seconds. Do it a little at a time until it stays and then pops back out and is hot.

    The original housings have three prongs, the reproductions only have two.
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    Don Harris
    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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    • Don H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • November 30, 1981
      • 1482

      #3
      Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

      I think you need to tighten (tweek) the side metal tabs. Good luck, Don H.

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      • Keith R.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 31, 2001
        • 660

        #4
        Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

        Thank you Don. I think that mine is an original but in looking at it more closely, it appears that one of the prongs/tangs at the 4:00 o'clock position has broken off. I'll try bending the other two a bit to see if it will stay in. I appreciate everyone's help on this.
        Attached Files
        Keith MacRae
        NCRS #36692
        New Mexico Chapter
        1960 290HP FI
        2013 427 Convertible

        Shade tree mechanic and
        B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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        • Bob R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 2002
          • 1595

          #5
          Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

          Disconnect the battery before you work on the lighter. There is no fuse on that circuit and poking around with a screw driver can do some damage. I have a broken tab on my lighter and had to find a replacement to get it to work properly.

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          • Leif A.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1997
            • 3611

            #6
            Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

            Keith,
            I think if you look a little closer you will see that you still have all three tabs available for adjustment. Follow Don's advice and report back!!
            Leif
            '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
            Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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            • Alan D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 31, 2004
              • 2028

              #7
              Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

              Disconnect the 12V lead to lighter and jury rig a fuse. Even when all three tabs are good the lighter can jamb in place, ie you can not pull out.
              If not fused you could loose inside & outside harness. Do a search on subject, it's a known problem - remember GM finally spent the money on a fuse.

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              • Keith R.
                Very Frequent User
                • August 31, 2001
                • 660

                #8
                Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                Thanks Leif however the lip on the one in the 4:30 position is actually broken off unlike the other two at the 12:30 and 8 o'clock positions. Perhaps two is enough to hold it in. I'll give it a try.
                Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                Keith,
                I think if you look a little closer you will see that you still have all three tabs available for adjustment. Follow Don's advice and report back!!
                Keith MacRae
                NCRS #36692
                New Mexico Chapter
                1960 290HP FI
                2013 427 Convertible

                Shade tree mechanic and
                B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                • Keith R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • August 31, 2001
                  • 660

                  #9
                  Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                  Must need a pretty hefty fuse I would think. I don't know how many amps it draws but I imagine that it is quite a bit.
                  Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
                  Disconnect the 12V lead to lighter and jury rig a fuse. Even when all three tabs are good the lighter can jamb in place, ie you can not pull out.
                  If not fused you could loose inside & outside harness. Do a search on subject, it's a known problem - remember GM finally spent the money on a fuse.
                  Keith MacRae
                  NCRS #36692
                  New Mexico Chapter
                  1960 290HP FI
                  2013 427 Convertible

                  Shade tree mechanic and
                  B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                  • Alan D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 31, 2004
                    • 2028

                    #10
                    Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                    See
                    Installing extra fuse protection

                    A search will find some more on subject, put the fuse IN! Not a big deal and could save your car.

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                    • Keith R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • August 31, 2001
                      • 660

                      #11
                      Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                      Thanks Alan. That is most helpful. I ordered a 14GA 10amp fuse off of Amazon just now and will install it. Do judges note this for flight judging? If so, I imagine that a male and female spade connector could be added on each end so it could be removable for judging if necessary.
                      Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
                      See
                      Installing extra fuse protection

                      A search will find some more on subject, put the fuse IN! Not a big deal and could save your car.
                      Keith MacRae
                      NCRS #36692
                      New Mexico Chapter
                      1960 290HP FI
                      2013 427 Convertible

                      Shade tree mechanic and
                      B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                      • Alan D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 31, 2004
                        • 2028

                        #12
                        Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                        I installed mine in 2007 after a near fire. Thanks to the judge's fast thinking who disconnected the battery the car is still here.
                        I just cut into circuit and hide in wiring - never been an issue (don't think it's ever been seen), participated in 3 more national events.

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                        • Dan H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1977
                          • 1366

                          #13
                          Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                          Believe I got several fuses from Jack Humphry on EBAY, it snaps on back of lighter and wire connects to it. I think he goes by 'Engine hunter' on Ebay. This was a while ago, so may be all gone now.
                          1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
                          Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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                          • Keith R.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • August 31, 2001
                            • 660

                            #14
                            Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                            Has anyone fused the horn relay?
                            Keith MacRae
                            NCRS #36692
                            New Mexico Chapter
                            1960 290HP FI
                            2013 427 Convertible

                            Shade tree mechanic and
                            B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                            • Troy P.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 31, 1989
                              • 1279

                              #15
                              Re: Cigarette lighter won't stay in

                              Yep I melted the wire to my lighter poking around in there to bend prongs with the battery connected. No fuse. The burning insulation landed on the carpet which melted into the carpet and ruined it.

                              The prongs you need to adjust are on the can, not those at the bottom that grab onto the lighter element. But if one of those bottom three prongs is bad you need to get a new part before you proceed. If you search NOS parts long enough you will find those with three prongs. And you need a three prong can to go with it.

                              I have had NOS Casco lighters that come in a box with directions that state the lighter has already been "tuned" and don't mess with it. But repo parts or mixed NOS parts are another issue.

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