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  • Gerald C.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1987
    • 1276

    1963 Shifter Issue

    To all,

    My 63 shifter is providing me with a real challenge. I re-installed it after having the transmission rebuilt. I have aligned the arms with the wooden block adjustment guide. The arms themselves are in alignment and the car goes through the gears fine.

    My challenge is now I have to push the shifter hard to the left when trying to get it in reverse. It is actually pinching the rubber boot against the console. I have doubled checked the alignment, etc.

    My question is that there another adjustment I should be looking for to correct this issue? The shifter worked fine before the rebuild. I did remove the shifter arms so that I could install the shifter and re-assembled the shifter properly (I guess!!)

    Any thoughts for my adjustment possibilities?

    Thanks,

    Jerry
  • Richard G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1984
    • 1715

    #2
    Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

    I like pictures:
    Maybe this will help?


    Sounds like the shifter assembly was out of sequence?
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    • Gerald C.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 1987
      • 1276

      #3
      Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

      Richard,

      Your picture shows the reverse rod facing into the transmission as it attaches to the outside arm of the shifter. The AIM shows it pointing outward as mine is set up this way. And my reverse lever is more forward in the neutral position than yours is....

      Jerry

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      • Gerald C.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 1987
        • 1276

        #4
        Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

        Here are a couple of pictures of my reverse rods. I went with the AIM showing that rod attaching to the shifter lever pointing outwards. However, there is a conflict as the shifter rod in my picture then shows the "bend" on the lower side pointing up. If I install the rod with the "bend" on the top, then the of attaching to the shifter level is pointing inward.???

        This whole solution has got to be staring me in the face!!!
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        • Bob R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 2002
          • 1595

          #5
          Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

          Jerry,
          I'm looking at all of the pictures posted and it looks like your reverse rod not only is facing the opposite direction but also has much more bend in it than Richards. I can't get a close look at my car right now to compare. The picture in the AIM is not great the rod is installed similar to the way yours is but it doesn't seem have as much bend in it. I was able to see that my reverse rod is installed facing the same way as yours but cannot determine the amount of bend in it.

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          • Richard G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1984
            • 1715

            #6
            Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

            Does this help?
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            • Gerald C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 30, 1987
              • 1276

              #7
              Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

              Bob,

              The reverse rod when attached to the reverse lever on the tranny is facing correctly according to page 143 of Noland Adams Book. And on Page 149, it shows the location of the levers, so I think I'm good there (I THINK!) I agree that the bend on mine is less than the one on page 143. But, it's the same rod I had in the car before I had the tranny done.

              Thanks for your help.

              Jerry

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              • Gerald C.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 1987
                • 1276

                #8
                Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                Richard,

                Your reverse rod seems to have the same bend as mine does. This solution will hit me about 2:00 in the morning one of these days! I will keep playing with it and thanks for your help...

                Jerry

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                • Edward J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 15, 2008
                  • 6940

                  #9
                  Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                  Jerry how about a pic. of your shifter boot install from inside the car. I cannot tell but the pic. but something maybe wrong??
                  New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                  • Gerald C.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1987
                    • 1276

                    #10
                    Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                    Ed,

                    I think the shifter boot is okay because the bracket that goes on top lines up with their respective holes. However, here is a picture of the shifter boot and the top of the shifter..FYI...Thoughts?

                    Jerry
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                    • Edward J.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 15, 2008
                      • 6940

                      #11
                      Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                      So without the boot how does it shift?
                      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                      • Chris D.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • November 1, 2002
                        • 198

                        #12
                        Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                        Gerald,
                        Richard's pic as well as Nolands shot on page 143 are T10s. Your shot looks like a Muncie or at least a Muncie shift arm. That would explain the differences in bends. See page 144. Reverse rods and shift arms changed between the two.

                        Is your issue difficulty getting the lever all the way to the left or difficulty pushing forward into gear?

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                        • Gerald C.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 30, 1987
                          • 1276

                          #13
                          Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                          Chris,

                          My issue is that it is hard moving the shifter to the left to get it in reverse. Once there, the transmission engages fine. All the other gears work well going down the road. The tranny is definitely a T10 and not a Muncie. But...maybe it is a Muncie reverse arm???

                          Jerry

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                          • Gerald C.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • June 30, 1987
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            Re: 1963 Shifter Issue

                            Here is a picture of the shifter and the rods after I removed it from the car. Thoughts??

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                            • Chris D.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 1, 2002
                              • 198

                              #15

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