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  • Ed H.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 19, 2015
    • 192

    Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

    OK, now that I've resolved the sticking throttle issue, I need to figure out how to stick the current issue replacement mirrors. Merely closing the door is sufficient to make them lose their resolve. The driver's side not such a difficult issue, but even once both have been readjusted, as one drives down the road they again lose their place in life. If only there were a set screw... Glue? Duct tape? Chewing gum? HELP!
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15597

    #2
    Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

    Originally posted by Ed Harrow (61788)
    OK, now that I've resolved the sticking throttle issue, I need to figure out how to stick the current issue replacement mirrors. Merely closing the door is sufficient to make them lose their resolve. The driver's side not such a difficult issue, but even once both have been readjusted, as one drives down the road they again lose their place in life. If only there were a set screw... Glue? Duct tape? Chewing gum? HELP!
    Actually Ed late 1969 and early 1970 side view mirror (there was only a driver's side mirror. Passenger side view mirror was not available as an option until 1973) had this "defect" and we have debated requiring this "feature" as proof of originality. :-)

    There was a thread on here recently building on an article I wrote for The Corvette Restorer some years ago detailing how to remove the mirror glass and tighten the holder around the ball. When I did the article lacquer thinner softened the RTV holding the glass in. It appears that the chemical make up of lacquer thinner has changed over the years, and now gasoline works when it didn't years ago. I guess that might be the only good thing about alcohol in gasoline. In any case you need to dig up that article from the early 1990s and the recent thread on the subject to solve your issues.

    Just another FYI: Reproduction mirrors have less mercury coating on the back of the mirror glass, and a strong flash light will reveal all the inner workings of the mirror. Original glass will not let the light shine through. Those of us who travel the NCRS meet circuit will know who checks this "feature" regularly. Unless you come to a Regional or National this will not matter to you.
    Terry

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    • Patrick H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1989
      • 11643

      #3
      Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
      Just another FYI: Reproduction mirrors have less mercury coating on the back of the mirror glass, and a strong flash light will reveal all the inner workings of the mirror. Original glass will not let the light shine through. Those of us who travel the NCRS meet circuit will know who checks this "feature" regularly. Unless you come to a Regional or National this will not matter to you.
      A bit of black paint applied to the back of the mirror will solve this issue.
      Some are smart enough to "fix" it before bringing their cars to a meet.
      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
      71 "deer modified" coupe
      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
      2008 coupe
      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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      • Russ S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 30, 1982
        • 2162

        #4
        Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

        Passenger side mirror wasn't available as an option until 1977.
        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
        Actually Ed late 1969 and early 1970 side view mirror (there was only a driver's side mirror. Passenger side view mirror was not available as an option until 1973) had this "defect" and we have debated requiring this "feature" as proof of originality. :-)

        There was a thread on here recently building on an article I wrote for The Corvette Restorer some years ago detailing how to remove the mirror glass and tighten the holder around the ball. When I did the article lacquer thinner softened the RTV holding the glass in. It appears that the chemical make up of lacquer thinner has changed over the years, and now gasoline works when it didn't years ago. I guess that might be the only good thing about alcohol in gasoline. In any case you need to dig up that article from the early 1990s and the recent thread on the subject to solve your issues.

        Just another FYI: Reproduction mirrors have less mercury coating on the back of the mirror glass, and a strong flash light will reveal all the inner workings of the mirror. Original glass will not let the light shine through. Those of us who travel the NCRS meet circuit will know who checks this "feature" regularly. Unless you come to a Regional or National this will not matter to you.

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        • Gary S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1992
          • 1632

          #5
          Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

          Ed, years ago I had a 1966 with a saggy side view mirror. I had read (perhaps in the Restorer or here?) that applying Loktite to the mirror swivel would work. It's been waaaay too many years for me to recall exactly how I did it but I think I pivoted the mirror all the way down, dribbled a bit of Loktite in there, pivoted it to the sides and repeated this. Then sit in the driver's seat adjust and walk away for a bit.

          I THINK this is what I did. I do know that my problems were solved with only periodic application needed.

          Gary

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          • Alan D.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 2000
            • 111

            #6
            Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

            Use the green Loctite.

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15597

              #7
              Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

              Originally posted by Russ Steinhaus (5540)
              Passenger side mirror wasn't available as an option until 1977.
              Russ
              You speak of a factory installed passenger side mirror. I speak of dealer installed passenger mirror became an option in 1973.
              Terry

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              • David M.
                Very Frequent User
                • September 30, 2004
                • 520

                #8
                Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

                I have used Loctite-4471 cyanoacrylate ( aka super glue but not just any super glue) to solve this problem. Needs reapplication every so often but it works for me.

                FYI keep it in the refrigerator for long storage life.

                Henkel Loctite 4471 is a medium viscosity, fast curing, cyanoacrylate adhesive designed for the assembly of difficult to bond materials that require uniform stress distribution and strong shear strength. 20 g Bottle. Part Number: 158530

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                • Ed H.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 19, 2015
                  • 192

                  #9
                  Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

                  Well I've not gotten to it, but I was thinking Blue Loctite... Thank you for the advice.

                  Clutch free play now 'pretty good'. Hood release still sticky. Seems to have a prodigious appetite for gas, LOL, but since the speedo isn't working it's a bit difficult to confirm. (It appears that the speedo cable is not attached to speedo. Hard to see up there.) Aiming to check float levels today.

                  Oh, and a three-cell MagLight won't let me see past the mirrors.

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15597

                    #10
                    Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

                    Originally posted by Ed Harrow (61788)

                    Oh, and a three-cell MagLight won't let me see past the mirrors.
                    Looks like they might be the real deal.
                    Terry

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                    • Ed H.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • November 19, 2015
                      • 192

                      #11
                      Re: Side mirrors, GRRRRRRRRR!

                      And this thing seems to have a prodigious appetite! At the moment there is a hiccup in the speedo connection, so I can't compute the actual mileage, but the grin factor partially makes up for it. I took a plug out today, looks fine. I checked the float levels, the front was a bit high, the rear was very high. No obvious leaking anywhere.

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