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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 26, 2009
    • 7076

    Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

    I have a problem with my '63's gas gauge. Not sure it is working as it is on full, but when I use the turn signal, it deflects (down) just like the volt gauge does. Anyone have experience with such things? Thanks.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico
  • Gene M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1985
    • 4232

    #2
    Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

    Check grounds. Sounds like one circuit is grounding thru the other.

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 26, 2009
      • 7076

      #3
      Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

      Thanks, I will check the ground wires first.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • David H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 2001
        • 1486

        #4
        Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

        Mike,

        Check tail light ground. I believe both are common. Does your gas gage deflect when you depress brakes? (same ground)

        Dave
        Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 26, 2009
          • 7076

          #5
          Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

          Thanks David, no, no deflection with the brake lights on.
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Ed H.
            Very Frequent User
            • October 31, 1999
            • 626

            #6
            Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

            Mike, while I was restoring my 57 I read on the tech board that if you double ground the fuel sending unit at it's source
            this will preclude the gas gage fluctuation. I used brass end units brass star washers at both ends. I found a location on
            on the rear upper of the frame, ground off to bare metal drilled a hole at that location, used #10 wire and a sheet metal bolt, dialectric grease, put
            all together and no fuel guage fluctuation. Grounding is the most important function of a corvettes electrical system. I used Lectric-limited
            complete wire system and added the grounding touch. Good luck.

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 26, 2009
              • 7076

              #7
              Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

              Thanks Ed, I will try that, I am digging into it as I have time. It is odd that the gas gauge deflects with the turn signal and brake light, whether or not the gas gauge fuse is in or out. With the gas gauge fuse in, it reads full and deflects, with the gas gauge fuse out, it reads empty and still deflects. Usually, with the fuse out, it sits at 1/2. I am also thinking the gauge package may be missing a good ground someplace. I do know the black wire from the sending unit is missing, I cannot see it as it enters the plug under the dash, it should be there with an eyelet to screw into the plate under the door light on the driver's side, this is a tanker sending unit. I will have to search around from the sending unit behind the seat to the plug at the gauge package to see what happened to it.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Richard G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1984
                • 1715

                #8
                Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

                I would pull the spare and tube and take a look. Great time to check the gauge with an ohm meter.
                Easy enough to get to and the most likely spot to find an issue.

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                • Michael J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 26, 2009
                  • 7076

                  #9
                  Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

                  Originally posted by Richard Geier (7745)
                  I would pull the spare and tube and take a look. Great time to check the gauge with an ohm meter.
                  Easy enough to get to and the most likely spot to find an issue.
                  Fortunately, this is a tanker, so the sending unit is behind the driver's seat. It has three wires coming out as a harness, that then disappears as a wrapped bundle (with the wires from the rear of the car) under the door sill and behind the carpeted kick panel, into a plug that clips on the birdcage. That is the area I am looking now for the ground wire from the sending unit harness.
                  Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                  • Richard G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1984
                    • 1715

                    #10
                    Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

                    I should have remembered that! (Tanker)
                    Hopefully you will be able to get to the harness connection and check it there.

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                    • Edward J.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 15, 2008
                      • 6940

                      #11
                      Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

                      Hi Mike, I think Gene M. is on the right track, what it sounds like its sourcing your ground to your rear lights because the tank sender ground is open, I would just make up a temporary ground wire long enough to ground the unit, get a couple of alligator clips.
                      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 26, 2009
                        • 7076

                        #12
                        Re: Gas gauge deflects with turn signal

                        Thanks guys, I am making progress. This car was fully restored several years ago, probably by a restorer who was not familiar with tanker sending units. The two wires connected to the back of the gauge are not the two that should be there. One is the switched 12V wire, the other is brown, as it should be, but is a ground wire instead of the wire coming from the sending unit variable resistor. So that explains why it goes to empty when the fuse is out and full when the fuse is in, and deflects with a load like turn signal or brake light. I suspect the brown wire from the sending unit has been crossed with the ground wire. I will get into the sending unit harness from the tank soon and check that all out.
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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