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  • Michael L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 14, 2006
    • 1387

    Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

    Guys,

    I need to replace one of the tubings on my 69 wsw and the replacement I ordered is unfinished. What is the best way to replicate that blue-gray finish of the original wsw tubing? If it is a plating I can have done that's fine, or I could just try to duplicate it with paint. Has anyone done this?

    Mike
  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • November 30, 1989
    • 11611

    #2
    Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

    Is it currently zinc plated? Or raw steel?

    You could attempt to replicate it on raw steel using some of the gun bluing touch-up products. If it's zinc plated you will have to first remove the zinc and then try it. In my experience, that is difficult to do and have it look correct. I've tried.

    Many people just paint it and move on.
    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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    • Michael L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 14, 2006
      • 1387

      #3
      Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

      Patrick,

      it appears to me that this is brass. See attached pic. I'm fine with painting it if that's the best/easiest option. Just wondering if anyone had plated or painted it and knew what worked best.

      Mike

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      • Edward J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 15, 2008
        • 6940

        #4
        Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

        Mike, the washer tubes and arms on my 72 have a dark green hue I can only see this with the right light, not sure you can duplicate this. I would say a semi flat black would be the closest, and they will be under the wiper door as long as they match the arms I think it would fly??
        New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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        • Patrick H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • November 30, 1989
          • 11611

          #5
          Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

          Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
          Mike, the washer tubes and arms on my 72 have a dark green hue I can only see this with the right light, not sure you can duplicate this. I would say a semi flat black would be the closest, and they will be under the wiper door as long as they match the arms I think it would fly??
          They didn't match the arms on Day 1, and we do check.
          In fact, if they match it won't fly. But it's only 1 point.

          Mike, check them with a magnet.
          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
          71 "deer modified" coupe
          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
          2008 coupe
          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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          • Michael L.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • December 14, 2006
            • 1387

            #6
            Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

            Ok Patrick I'll check them with a magnet. Can you tell me what the recs would be if it is steel? What if it's not?

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            • Loren L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1976
              • 4104

              #7
              Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

              And the method used to establish that there was only ONE supplier was ........

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • November 30, 1989
                • 11611

                #8
                Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                Originally posted by Michael Leonard (46610)
                Ok Patrick I'll check them with a magnet. Can you tell me what the recs would be if it is steel? What if it's not?
                See my comments above. If it's not steel, it will be a lot more difficult, and then I'd just paint it.
                However, since it was soldered in place I'm going to suspect it's steel...?
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Gary B.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • July 31, 1979
                  • 926

                  #9
                  Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                  Ok, I can't take it any longer.

                  I have a piece of broken tubing off a car sitting around here forever. So this morning I sanded it vigorously with 320 grit paper, down to the brass tubing. It is not steel, it is not magnetic.

                  On top of the brass tube is a "silver" plating, which I suspect is very light coat of solder. Similar to what they do to wire ends before they have the crimp connectors applied to them, they are dipped into a hot solder bath. (I think they call that tinning?) I suspect they used a solder dip over the whole tube, as the end where the rubber tube is pushed on, a barb is soldered on. The other end, which is flattened closed, was probably also soldered shut, to keep it from leaking under pressure. And then they soldered the clip to the tube. Then I suspect it was plated with ???

                  Over the "silver" plating, again I think is a solder bath, they applied some sort of a plating before it was riveted to the arm. I don't know what that plating is. If it was bare brass, you might try "Brass Black" by Birchwood Casey. It leaves a black, kind of a green tint. Don't know what it does over solder though. Although, I might try it today.

                  A picture to show the arm, tubing and solder as installed at the factory.

                  Gary B

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                  • Gary B.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1979
                    • 926

                    #10
                    Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                    Took the sanded end, which is down to bare solder (i think) and dipped it in "Brass Black". It turned black, which might turn a little green with age? So you might just try cleaning the old tube and clip, and trying the Brass Black and let us know how it turns out....

                    Gary B

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • November 30, 1989
                      • 11611

                      #11
                      Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                      Gary,

                      Did you try that on the brass, the silver solder-prepped part, or both?

                      PH
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Gary B.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 31, 1979
                        • 926

                        #12
                        Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                        both plated well. the brass takes a little longer to turn deep black.
                        Gb

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • November 30, 1989
                          • 11611

                          #13
                          Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                          Interesting. I'll have to inspect certain cars a bit closer now.
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Stephen B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • March 31, 1988
                            • 876

                            #14
                            Re: Best way to replicate the blue-gray finish of the wsw tubing

                            I mixed gun bluing with some satin dark green paint for the effect. I wrote an article for The Restorer about 10 years ago on how I did it. PM me if you want a copy of the article.

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