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  • Stephen B.
    Frequent User
    • November 30, 2014
    • 76

    1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

    Need some some good recommendation for a rebuild on a Q-jet. Getting close to getting to start a 72 coupe that's been parked for 15 years. Lots of has been done and done right. Thank you
  • David M.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 2004
    • 519

    #2
    Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

    Cliff Ruggel


    Q-Jet guru Lars Grimsrud
    v8fastcars@msn.com

    Sparky's
    http://www.sparkyscarbs.com

    The Carb Shop
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    Cliff being no 1 but sometimes you have to wait. Also you will need to be specific with any builder as to what you expect for the end result. You want it 100% stock correct for judging etc. Is the engine stock? If not they will need specifics such as heads, cam, rear gear upgrades etc. Some offer a full tune performed on a running engine before it ships to you.
    Last edited by David M.; April 28, 2018, 11:25 PM.

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    • Joey H.
      Expired
      • November 4, 2014
      • 17

      #3
      Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

      I used Cliff to rebuild my 72 carb. Work was great and no adjustments needed after I installed it. It took some time to get it back. I think 4 months.

      Joey

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      • Bob I.
        Very Frequent User
        • November 9, 2006
        • 265

        #4

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        • Daniel S.
          Very Frequent User
          • January 14, 2011
          • 307

          #5
          Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

          Eric Jackson - Vintage Muscle Car Parts. Great guy!

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          • Ron G.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1984
            • 865

            #6
            Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

            Stephen,

            I highly recommend using Custom Rebuilt Carburetor in New Jersey. The person you want to ask for is Phil Cancilla who is the owner. Not only do they do a great job rebuilding the unit, but they do an outstanding job of re-plating it to the way it was when it was new. Not cheap, but very reliable and trust worthy. Phil's reach number is: (732) 356 - 4333. - Ron
            "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11616

              #7
              Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

              Originally posted by Ron Goduti (8076)
              Stephen,

              I highly recommend using Custom Rebuilt Carburetor in New Jersey. The person you want to ask for is Phil Cancilla who is the owner. Not only do they do a great job rebuilding the unit, but they do an outstanding job of re-plating it to the way it was when it was new. Not cheap, but very reliable and trust worthy. Phil's reach number is: (732) 356 - 4333. - Ron
              I find that Phil recolors some parts the incorrect color, swaps the screws out for incorrectly appearing units, and will swap parts off your carb - or mix them up with someone else's? - and doesn't care when you complain. At least, that is my experience with him.
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Ron G.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1984
                • 865

                #8
                Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                Patrick, I have to say that was not my experience at all. I was very clear with my instructions as to what I was expecting, and I must say I was not disappointed. In fact I insisted that he perform the rebuild and oversee the plating process. I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but I am probably as anal as they come. I recorded every number and date along with pics from every angle. I sent you a couple of pictures and you seemed that you liked it. Again, I am sorry to hear if someone had a negative experience, but maybe it was because I policed it. I got all my original hardware and parts back. - Ron
                "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11616

                  #9
                  Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                  Originally posted by Ron Goduti (8076)
                  Patrick, I have to say that was not my experience at all. I was very clear with my instructions as to what I was expecting, and I must say I was not disappointed. In fact I insisted that he perform the rebuild and oversee the plating process. I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but I am probably as anal as they come. I recorded every number and date along with pics from every angle. I sent you a couple of pictures and you seemed that you liked it. Again, I am sorry to hear if someone had a negative experience, but maybe it was because I policed it. I got all my original hardware and parts back. - Ron
                  Ron,

                  I specifically talked to Phil and requested the same. I even sent it in writing with the carb. Is that what I got? Nope, and when I contacted him he didn't care. As a result, in the past several years I have not recommended him once, and won't.

                  Patrick
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Ron G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • December 1, 1984
                    • 865

                    #10
                    "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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                    • Gene M.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1985
                      • 4232

                      #11
                      Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                      Just restore the carb yourself there are plenty of you tubes and information out there. It’s not rocket science. The entire premise of NCRS is working on these cars, as the “R” is for restoration.

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                      • Mark E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1993
                        • 4503

                        #12
                        Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                        Basic disassembly, cleaning, installation of a new kit isn't hard and may be all that's needed for a solid carburetor.

                        But these carbs are getting old. Many have been through commercial rebuilders, subjected to misguided mods, are warped, have stripped threads or worn out throttle bushings.

                        For example, Cliff Ruggles rescued a Q-Jet I acquired on eBay which had a butchered idle bypass. Someone had epoxied the passages in the main body closed, enlarged the metering holes in the throttle body, and installed different sized idle tubes. Identifying these as the reasons why the engine wouldn't idle and knowing how to correct them takes more experience than many of us have with these carbs.
                        Mark Edmondson
                        Dallas, Texas
                        Texas Chapter

                        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                        • Ted Z.
                          Expired
                          • January 4, 2018
                          • 47

                          #13
                          Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                          If I'm understanding your post correctly Mark, the "well plugs" are typically epoxied on a Rochester rebuild because they leak. This causes hard starting and leaves the bowl empty in some cases.

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                          • Dave S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 1992
                            • 2922

                            #14
                            Re: 1972 Q-jet rebuild recommendation please

                            Originally posted by ted zywicki (64289)
                            If I'm understanding your post correctly Mark, the "well plugs" are typically epoxied on a Rochester rebuild because they leak. This causes hard starting and leaves the bowl empty in some cases.
                            Chris at Chris's carb shop in Dayton Ohio has done several for me including Quadrajets, Carter AFB's and Holley's. He is a smaller carb shop and does the work himself. He runs all carbs on a test motor and will do whatever you want from rebuilds to full carb restoration. Great guy. My last rebuild took 2 1/2 weeks from start to finish. I would recommend him to anyone. Google him for his contact information.

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