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  • Fred Y.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 30, 2000
    • 319

    Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

    I've seen & heard many posts regarding the amount of time one should wait before hitting the car with some 2000 wet sand & then a polish compound on Lacquer--------I know St Louis did it the same day ( in 5-min or less--lol) , but I shot mine this AM & I obviously don't have a 200 deg oven to push it through. Any consensus among more experienced members out there who have used lacquer ? I have it sitting in my shop @ 75 deg now. I don't think I want to ask about the stinger yet----at least not today.

    Thanks to all ----Fred
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

    Lacquer probably 30 days to be safe. Modern two stage catalyzed paints, next day
    Dick Whittington

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    • Fred Y.
      Very Frequent User
      • April 30, 2000
      • 319

      #3
      Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

      Fair enough Dick. The wait is going to be tough-------HOPEFULLY worth it. I think I may drop the body back on while I wait. I'll just cover everything.

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      • Edward B.
        Very Frequent User
        • January 1, 1988
        • 537

        #4
        Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

        Overhaulin doesn't wait, but they claim to do everything in seven days.

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

          Originally posted by Edward Boyd (12363)
          Overhaulin doesn't wait, but they claim to do everything in seven days.
          I have started cutting the next day using a DA sander on modern catalyzed paint. No sweat. I waited 30 days after the first car we painted in Deltron. Every tried sanding concrete?
          Dick Whittington

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          • Fred Y.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 30, 2000
            • 319

            #6
            Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

            Well It seems as though the concensus us to wait a silid 3 weeks. I'd say with the colder weather were experiencing in the NE probably doesn't help for a faster cure time.
            I'd say a little patience now will hopefully pay dividends in the end.

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            • Bill S.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 30, 2002
              • 154

              #7
              Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

              With lacquer you want it completely dry so it shrinks. Back in the day sure you could wet sand and buff the lacquer the next day and it would look great but 30 days later after it finished drying you could see sanding scratches that showed up as the paint shrank during further drying. As the solvents out gas the paint shrinks and will show all the imperfections and sanding scratches once that happens you can wet sand and buff.
              Bill Strobel
              Owner Independent Towing
              Fayetteville, NC
              1979 Corvette White/Red L-82 4 spd
              Only 4,200 miles
              Do It Right or Don't Do It At All

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              • Fred Y.
                Very Frequent User
                • April 30, 2000
                • 319

                #8
                Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                Thanks Bill.
                I'm glad to have this knowledge base to back me up. 30 days it is. I may as well let it off gas & shrink & then give it a 2000 grit wet sand & then polish.

                The only task I've been considering is dropping the body back on the frame before I sand it out.
                I can easily cover all my chassis work up while I wait and I like the idea of getting the body off of the cradle and back in place on the chassis so that can settle back in while I wait.

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                • Richard G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1984
                  • 1715

                  #9
                  Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                  Just so you know;
                  "obviously don't have a 200 deg oven to push it through"
                  GM did this to re-flow the pain on the steel cars but not to the Corvette. Fiberglass wouldn't take the heat, or GM didn't think so.
                  So they were buffed by hand.

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                  • Fred Y.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • April 30, 2000
                    • 319

                    #10
                    Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                    Well I know that the corvettes did Indeed go through an oven after painting, (somewhere in the 150 neighborhood) this certainly baked the paint & sped up the out gas process. This is why I need to sit tight and wait a month.
                    Worth the wait !

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                    • Fred Y.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 30, 2000
                      • 319

                      #11
                      Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                      Originally posted by Fred Yankocy (34048)
                      Well I know that the corvettes did Indeed go through an oven after painting, (somewhere in the 150 neighborhood) this certainly baked the paint & sped up the out gas process. This is why I need to sit tight and wait a month.
                      Worth the wait !
                      Thought I'd show a pic a couple hours after completion yesterday. I had a bright Sun at my back & was just using my cell camera so It's not a super picture. The very very fine metallic used in the marina blue gives it just that slight silver hue. And this is yet to be polished. I think we nailed the color on the nose. Metallics ,for sure are much more tricky. The inside of the fin area thankfully laid down perfectly flat with only the slightest amount of orangepeel. I can see why they spent less time at that DOI point to polish, but we also know it was to get the cars off the line ASAP. Hope ya like it !

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                      • Richard G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1984
                        • 1715

                        #12
                        Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                        Thanks for the information. learn something new every day.

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                        • Michael F.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 1, 1993
                          • 745

                          #13
                          Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                          FRED, I have to ask, how do you know they used an oven, were you there?

                          EDWARD, interesting about overhaul, of course never any follow up to see how paint jobs stand up
                          Michael


                          70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
                          03 Electron Blue Z06

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                          • Fred Y.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 30, 2000
                            • 319

                            #14
                            Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                            Michael, many threads on this. I'll let some of the much more experienced members expand on this. The cars went through a curing booth or oven (as it were) to let the paint both cure & settle down.
                            No, I was 5 at the time.

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                            • David H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 30, 2001
                              • 1523

                              #15
                              Re: Length of time before I wet sanding & buff

                              Originally posted by Michael Funk (22104)
                              FRED, I have to ask, how do you know they used an oven, were you there? ...
                              Michael,

                              A couple of good resources. First, John Hinckley’s excellent presentation on Mid-Year Corvette Assembly. Second is link to a very interesting book, Peter Licastro’s “ Birthplace of Legends” Story of Corvette Production at St Louis. BTW John Hinckley’s article indicates oven temperature as 280 F.

                              Dave



                              https://www.amazon.com/Birthplace-Le.../dp/0963055585
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