C2 carpet

[Randy R.]

The 67 Judging Guide says there is a carpet cut behind the accelerator pedal. Would someone please post a picture of this ? I have the original piece of carpet for this area and it has no such cut.

Thank you,

Randy

[Gene M.]

Re: C2 carpet

Randy I’m not picturing a cut as such. But could it refer to the area where the two holes are for the screws to go thru the floor into the steel plate to secure the pedal to the floor. There is a spacer to level the pedal due to the removed insulation, that’s the only thing that’s cut away that comes to mind.

[Mike M.]

Re: C2 carpet

agree with gene. mike

[Gary S.]

Re: C2 carpet

The tan and red pictures are of 67's. The blue is of a 66. All have a "chunk" taken out and I have several other pictures of original carpet with that chunk cut out in that area. The blue 66 definitely has a 3 or 4 inch slice cut as shown by the red arrows. I don't have picture of a 67 with that slice.

[Stephen L.]

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If there was a vertical cut in the carpet what would be the purpose???
I can understand the "chunk" gone around the accelerator rod and bracket but why a cut...... more clearance for the accelerator to floor when depressed completely to allow wide open throttle????

[Gene M.]

Re: C2 carpet

If I was to guess the manual may be referring to a small corner adjacent to the accelerator rod pivot. But that is not under the gas pedal. Even this is all over the map as to the amount of carpet cut out some quite a bit as in Gary’s photo’s and other almost nothing at all.

As for the ‘66 vertical slit I have not run into to an original cut in this manor. Easy to miss. Always safe to never say never..........

[Alan D.]

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Here are some more of the area, note the cut seems to have expanded as the C2 error advanced. These are (as far as I know) all from original 1964 carpet. Serial numbers 48,000 and 20,000, about!

[Stephen L.]

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Alan, your photos appear to show a "finished edge" piping in that area behind the pedal.....not just a slit.

[Alan D.]

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The edges for 63/64 were finished in that area. Besides the cut out being discussed I have never noticed any slit in 63/64 carpets similar to the above one.

[Gary S.]

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Ok...think this is the answer to the accelerator area carpet cut reason. This is from a post by Mike Murray, Sept 7, 2008

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...lerator+carpet

Mike wrote regarding the 1967 year:
Most, but, not all were cut behind the accelerator.
It depended upon how much "surplus and pucker" remained.
"The carpet behind the gas pedal is cut approximately eight inches down from the accelerator linkage attachment to the body. The left flap then overlaps the right to allow for a flush fit of the surplus carpet against the firewall and the side console areas. The carpet is also removed from around the accelerator linkage attachment to body area.
The forward footwell carpet section tucks under the firewall insulation."
Further,
"The pedal base is raised off the floor pan by a pressed board block which is placed under the floor heel pad. The carpet is removed from under the heel pad area where the block rests. This allows the accelerator linkage to precisely contact the plastic insert on the back of the gas pedal. The pedal will appear to be sitting in a hole if the spacer is missing."
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Here is another picture I found in my files of an accelerator cut from a 65 bowtie car Ballard ran thru judging that I found for him a few year ago. It is hard to see the cut, but it is there.

[Stephen L.]

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So, if the carpet does NOT pucker in that area then there isn't a reason for a cut...... Sounds like this was an "on line" modification to the carpet, as well as the "chunk" mentioned earlier, by the line worker to make the carpet fit better....

[Gary S.]

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Steve, the 7th Edition 67 judging manual says "The carpet behind the accelerator pedal is typically cut approximately 8" downward from the accelerator linkage......" So, as a judge, the word "typically" does not mean "always." Just as the word "may" does not mean always.

The the manual also continues about the "chunk" with this wording: "Carpet is also removed from around the accelerator linkage attachment to body area." The word "is" tells me as a judge it should be cut out.

And for what it is worth, I have several pictures of original carpet in that area from 65-66-67. Some have the slice and some don't. But all have the "chunk" cut out around the linkage attachment.

[Stephen L.]

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Gary, Thanks for the clarification. My carpet fits good and I sure didn't want to "slit" it if not necessary.......

[Alan D.]

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Gary,
Thanks for specifying the comments are for 65-67. Looking back at some of my 63/64 carpets very often it appears the top of carpet wraps around the tunnel (carpet a little tooo wide at top?) Bet some suppliers were just making carpets a little wider on a certain day. Since 63/64 could be wrapped around side (tunnel side) the cutting was not necessary, perhaps. Well another thing to look at for 63/64 carpet.

[David S.]

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If I was to guess the manual may be referring to a small corner adjacent to the accelerator rod pivot. But that is not under the gas pedal. Even this is all over the map as to the amount of carpet cut out some quite a bit as in Gary’s photo’s and other almost nothing at all.

As for the ‘66 vertical slit I have not run into to an original cut in this manor. Easy to miss. Always safe to never say never..........

Hi Gene,

As info, my 38k mile 67 390 (May 1967 build) has the slit behind the accelerator. It is kind of hard to tell from the pictures but for sure the slit is there, left side of the carpet overlaps the right side and of course the carpet cut out for the accelerator rod too. Here are a few pictures.

If you recall, the car was at the Altoona Regional last year were we met and had some great discussions about these cars.

Best,
Dave