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  • Edward J.
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    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    Question 63 close ratio tooth count

    Does anyone know the gear tooth count on the 63 close ratio 4 speed??
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.
  • Peter M.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 30, 2013
    • 358

    #2
    Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

    Ed,
    If it's a Muncie the main drive (clutch) gear is 26T. The cluster is 27T,22T, 19T, 17T.
    If it's a Borg Warner I would have to do some looking.
    Kind regards

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    • Edward J.
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      • September 15, 2008
      • 6940

      #3
      Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

      Pete , yes it is a Borg Warner t10 , I should have post the Trans type. Thanks Ed
      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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      • Chris D.
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        • October 31, 2002
        • 198

        #4
        Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

        Made me look. 27t main drive gear, cluster 28, 23, 20, 17 for the close ratio Borg Warner box.

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        • Edward J.
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          • September 15, 2008
          • 6940

          #5
          Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

          Originally posted by Chris Davies (38924)
          Made me look. 27t main drive gear, cluster 28, 23, 20, 17 for the close ratio Borg Warner box.
          Chris is it possible that the C/R cluster gear tooth count for 63 t10 is- 28,23.19.17. I found a nos cluster gear with this gear count. Thanks, Ed
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Chris D.
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            • October 31, 2002
            • 198

            #6

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            • Chris D.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 31, 2002
              • 198

              #7
              Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

              Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
              Chris is it possible that the C/R cluster gear tooth count for 63 t10 is- 28,23.19.17. I found a nos cluster gear with this gear count. Thanks, Ed
              Ed,
              You're right, it has to be 19 for the listed 1.64 second gear ratio to calculate correctly. 30/19 * 28/27 = 1.637. I either misread the parts book or need to make a correctional notation. Looks like you have the cluster you are looking for.

              Chris

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              • Edward J.
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                • September 15, 2008
                • 6940

                #8
                Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                Chris I believe your first post on tooth count is correct, I found that the 63 Corvette tooth count with the t10D trans case is different as the t10C case is different than the D case. the part number listed as 3813379 is 63 corvette. the C case is 3813378 which must be pass car C/R cluster gear?????
                Last edited by Edward J.; February 16, 2018, 07:32 AM.
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                • Edward J.
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                  • September 15, 2008
                  • 6940

                  #9
                  Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                  if anyone else along with Chris can shed some light on the tooth count(s) please weight in. Thanks Ed
                  New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                  • Ray K.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1985
                    • 369

                    #10
                    Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                    My books list B / W main drive gear 2.20 close ratio as 27 tooth count for 1963 # 3855734
                    cluster gear count is 28-23-19-17 for 2.20 ratio # 9771378 ( old number #3817378 )
                    #3817379 cluster gear is 2.54 ratio - 30-23-19-17

                    Ray

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                    • Timothy B.
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                      • April 30, 1983
                      • 5177

                      #11
                      Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                      Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                      if anyone else along with Chris can shed some light on the tooth count(s) please weight in. Thanks Ed
                      I always thought the tooth count was different on the cluster gear on the D case because the second gear on the D case mainshaft D had a different tooth count.

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                      • Edward J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 15, 2008
                        • 6940

                        #12
                        Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                        Tim, I have been doing a lot of searching on TDB archives as it looks like the input and cluster gear is what I need to convert my wide ratio to a close ratio, it also appears as though the other gears are the same.
                        New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                        • Duke W.
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                          • December 31, 1992
                          • 15604

                          #13
                          Re: Question 63 close ratio tooth count

                          That's the expedient GM used to create the two ratio sets. Only two parts are different, the clutch gear and countergear. Unfortunately it results in 1-2 and 2-3 being fairly close (same intergear ratio for both CR and WR versions), and then there's a huge gap to forth.

                          It should be the other way around - the widest gap between 1-2, the progressively closer as you move of the gears.

                          The Richmond Super T-10 is what I call a progressive ratio transmission with a choice of three gear sets, with first gears of 2.88, 2.64, or 2.43. The widest gap is between 1-2 and gets closer through the gears.

                          Duke

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