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  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #16
    Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

    Originally posted by Allen Nichols (39120)
    I have two Set 3 bearings and one Set 5 bearing that I bought from Doc Rebuild a few months ago that all have USA on them.

    I just received one Set 5 bearing that I bought from Summit Racing, and it has USA on it.
    S2 bearing set is about $4.00 and A5 less than $6.00 at Rock Auto. And I ain't a great fan or Rock Auto
    Dick Whittington

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    • Gary R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1989
      • 1798

      #17
      Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

      While I have not bought any bearings or critical parts from Rock I have purchased small items for my S10. For the most part they were ok but I recall ordering CR/SKF seals for the vette differentials and they shipped me another brand which I did not want. They explained they can ship similar but the functioning parts so I returned them all. Those are very good prices on USA Timkens- if they really are. I think I'll order a set of 69-82 front bearings and see what I get.

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      • Terry D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1987
        • 2691

        #18
        Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

        Just a final note, I wasn't clear in my previous posts, I was talking about front wheel bearings for a C1. As of right now Summit doesn't list a Timken bearing for a C1.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43221

          #19
          Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

          Originally posted by Terry Deusterman (11486)
          Just a final note, I wasn't clear in my previous posts, I was talking about front wheel bearings for a C1. As of right now Summit doesn't list a Timken bearing for a C1.
          Terry------


          That's not surprising. C-1's, of course, use ball bearings. Timken does not manufacture ball bearings; their thing is tapered roller bearings.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Terry D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1987
            • 2691

            #20
            Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

            Joe are you saying Timken never made ball bearings?

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            • Richard G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1984
              • 1715

              #21
              Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

              Taken right from Timken's web site:
              Timken engineered bearings feature precision tolerances, proprietary internal geometries and quality materials. Our tapered, spherical, cylindrical, thrust, ball, plain, miniature, precision and housed unit bearings deliver strong performance, consistently and reliably.

              They (Timken) also has a great tool that gives bearing and seal information by year for automotive applications. I find it a great resource;
              http://www.showmetheparts.com/timken/

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43221

                #22
                Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                Originally posted by Terry Deusterman (11486)
                Joe are you saying Timken never made ball bearings?
                Terry-----


                Over the years I have been told many times that Timken does not make ball bearings. However, that may have changed. In any event, I've never seen a Timken-branded (on the bearing) ball bearing. Perhaps they make them for non-automotive applications, though.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #23
                  Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                  More info:

                  I think I've got this figured out now. For years Timken made only tapered roller bearings. In 2003 they bought the Torrington Company. Torrington was a manufacturer of other types of roller bearings but had purchased the Fafnir Bearing Company at some point in their history. Fafnir was primarily a manufacturer of ball bearings. So, when Timken bought Torrington, they became a manufacturer of other types of roller bearings as well as ball bearings.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Gerald C.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1987
                    • 1283

                    #24
                    Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                    I have the bearings and races that I need to do all the wheels in my 63. I have the Timken #s for the seals except the Front Outer Seal. Can someone help me with getting that number?

                    I need these seals:
                    Front Inner #7934S
                    Front Outer # ______
                    Rear Inner # 9178S
                    Rear Outer # 5113

                    Any particular place I should look for these seals?

                    Thanks

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43221

                      #25
                      Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                      Originally posted by Gerald Coia (11656)
                      I have the bearings and races that I need to do all the wheels in my 63. I have the Timken #s for the seals except the Front Outer Seal. Can someone help me with getting that number?

                      I need these seals:
                      Front Inner #7934S
                      Front Outer # ______
                      Rear Inner # 9178S
                      Rear Outer # 5113

                      Any particular place I should look for these seals?

                      Thanks
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Gerald C.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1987
                        • 1283

                        #26
                        Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                        Thanks Joe!

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                        • Gerald C.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 30, 1987
                          • 1283

                          #27
                          Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                          Any source recommendations for these seals?

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                          • Richard M.
                            Super Moderator
                            • August 31, 1988
                            • 11323

                            #28
                            Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                            Jerry, Those seals are available from most auto parts and online stores.

                            7934S

                            9178S

                            5113

                            Are you also rebuilding the trailing arms? Because in order to change bearings and seals the arms have to come off and apart, then reassembled with special tools and procedures.

                            Rich

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                            • Leif A.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • August 31, 1997
                              • 3628

                              #29
                              Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                              Originally posted by Gerald Coia (11656)
                              I have the bearings and races that I need to do all the wheels in my 63. I have the Timken #s for the seals except the Front Outer Seal. Can someone help me with getting that number?

                              I need these seals:
                              Front Inner #7934S https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-...34s/803458_0_0
                              Front Outer # ______
                              Rear Inner # 9178S https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-...78s/803901_0_0
                              Rear Outer # 5113 https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-...113/803435_0_0

                              Any particular place I should look for these seals?

                              Thanks
                              Gerald,
                              Autozone has your seals, as well as, most other major auto parts houses. See links above.
                              Leif
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                              • Gerald C.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • June 30, 1987
                                • 1283

                                #30
                                Re: Timken vs. National Bearings

                                Found all the correct Timken seals on PartsGeek at a great price.

                                Thanks for the feedback

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