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  • William F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 9, 2009
    • 1363

    rebuild POA valve experiences

    Would appreciate feedback on experiences with the rebuilt POA valves done by Classic Auto Air in FL. They say they do hundreds of them. I want it to be functional. Considering one of these vs a POA "upgrade" which eliminates POA and cycles compressor I've had good luck with one of these straight through replacements from Old Air in Texas on another 67, but of course, it would get a judging deduct.
    Thanks
  • Jimmy G.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1979
    • 976

    #2
    Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

    The guys in Florida have done rebuilds on several AC parts for me. Never disappointed
    Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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    • Don H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 1, 1981
      • 1487

      #3
      Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

      I agree with Jimmy. Classic Auto Air have done multiple items for me and all worked great. Don H.

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      • Tom L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • October 17, 2006
        • 1439

        #4
        Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

        Had mine rebuilt and re-calibrated for 134a. A/C works great, no issues at all.

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        • William F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 9, 2009
          • 1363

          #5
          Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

          Was incidentially talking to another knowledgeable NCRS member who said reman POA valves hadn't worked for him. Are your good experiences with reman ac products specifically POA valves, which I'm asking about, or other components? Any body know where I can get an original for at least reasonable price?
          Thanks

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          • Tom L.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • October 17, 2006
            • 1439

            #6
            Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

            For me only the POA valve.

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            • James F.
              Frequent User
              • March 1, 1997
              • 44

              #7
              Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

              I also had good luck with their POA valve and their compressor. They actually kept a second core that I included, and I only paid $16 for their work. Keep in mind when converting to 134A that an original or smaller area condensor limits cold air output. They also sell a green o-ring kit that is also a change-over requirement. There is also the correct oil to use, and you should have "barrier" hose, that has a plastic liner so the smaller 134A molecules don't leak thru the hose walls. I learned all this from them.

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              • Don H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • December 1, 1981
                • 1487

                #8
                Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                Mine where suction throttle valves from a '64 & '65. They have always worked great after Classic Auto Air rebuild them. Don H.

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                • Mark E.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1993
                  • 4528

                  #9
                  Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                  I called them a few weeks ago about rebuilding a '70 POA. They wanted $220 and 6 weeks. Each sounded excessive.
                  Mark Edmondson
                  Dallas, Texas
                  Texas Chapter

                  1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                  1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                  • Mark E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1993
                    • 4528

                    #10
                    Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                    Regarding the POA "update" kit which cycles the compressor clutch, look for Dom's post about this several weeks ago. He questioned if the A6 clutch is designed to handle on/off cycling.

                    And with non-computer cars, how can a constant idle speed be maintained with the AC cycling on/off?

                    What's the benefit? A marginal increase in fuel mileage? Does this offset the above questions, the non-original look and extra cost?
                    Mark Edmondson
                    Dallas, Texas
                    Texas Chapter

                    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                    • William F.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 9, 2009
                      • 1363

                      #11
                      Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                      The benefit is not increased fuel mileage. Advantage is that it eliminates the often troublesome POA valve. There's one for R12 and another for R134 I've read Dom's opinion, but don't really think that's a big issue. On the one sold by Old Air Products in Texas, you can adjust how much cycling you desire. I'v e had one on a '67 for 4 years; ac blows cold, no problems. But concerning whether $220 for a rebuild is excessive if you want to stay with a poa valve, cheapest new original one I've seen is $500-$600.

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                      • Mark E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1993
                        • 4528

                        #12
                        Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                        Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                        The benefit is not increased fuel mileage. Advantage is that it eliminates the often troublesome POA valve. There's one for R12 and another for R134 I've read Dom's opinion, but don't really think that's a big issue. On the one sold by Old Air Products in Texas, you can adjust how much cycling you desire. I'v e had one on a '67 for 4 years; ac blows cold, no problems. But concerning whether $220 for a rebuild is excessive if you want to stay with a poa valve, cheapest new original one I've seen is $500-$600.
                        NOS may be that much. I'm looking at used but tested and "guaranteed" POAs. They maintain an original look and from the photos, the finish on many of them look good. They're $100 - $130 and will work with either R12 or R134.

                        Has anyone had experience with these?
                        Mark Edmondson
                        Dallas, Texas
                        Texas Chapter

                        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                        • William F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 9, 2009
                          • 1363

                          #13
                          Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                          Why would a good poa valve be removed in the first place? Off a totaled Corvette? Yes, would like to hear experiences with these.

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                          • Patrick T.
                            Expired
                            • September 30, 1999
                            • 1286

                            #14
                            Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                            Is a POA still coined as a Pressure Operated Absolute? It's been a while, thanks.
                            Last edited by Patrick T.; October 3, 2017, 06:32 PM.

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                            • William F.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 9, 2009
                              • 1363

                              #15
                              Re: rebuild POA valve experiences

                              If you have a '67 and up factory ac car, you'll learn more than you want about the poa valve since they're prone to stop working.

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