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  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5186

    1963 Water Temperature Gauge

    The other day when I started my 63 I noticed the temperature gauge near the 240 mark so I checked the engine and did not think the temperature was anywhere near that hot. Everything seemed normal, I shut the motor off and removed the sender wire from sender and turned the ignition switch to run and the gauge came down to just below 180 (center).

    I removed the engine harness to fuse block plug and found a few wires that worked back out of the plug a very little bit so I fixed them and plugged the harness back in. After checking the gauge again with the ignition switch in the run position and the sender wire NOT connected to the sender I still could not get the temp gauge to go to the cold position. I checked the gauge ground to cluster, cluster ground and birdcage ground, all good. Checked voltage at the fuel gauge fuse where the ignition switch run wire feeds and all good.

    Fearing the gauge coil going bad the last test was to set the ignition switch to run and ground the sender wire to see how the gauge reacts. All normal, the gauge pegs full hot like it should so I shut the key off and reconnected the sender wire to the sender on the intake manifold. At that point I turned the key to run again and the gauge needle went back to the cold like normal.

    Thoughts on this are appreciated, I thought bad ground or voltage problem but all checked OK, or one of the wires in the firewall plug that pushed back slightly not making good connection in the plug but the 12ga red that powers the ignition switch was not one of them so at this point I'm not sure.

    What I did notice was the barrel nut on the ignition switch was loose, I am not sure if that switch needs to ground on the cluster AND the last few times I started the cold engine I noticed, click-click a few times from the starter solenoid before the starter spun.

    No other issues, all wiring new so the only thing I can figure is bad connection at the firewall plug OR could it be the green turn off knob on the battery not allowing a good connection.

    Sorry for the long winded, I sure hope the coil in the gauge is not going bad.
  • Joe R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1976
    • 4550

    #2
    Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

    Gremlins! Halloween is just around the corner and 1963 Corvettes are prone to howl at the moon!



    JR

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    • Timothy B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1983
      • 5186

      #3
      Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

      Joe Ray,

      Have you ever experienced the stuck temp gauge issue before. Does this ignition switch need to ground to cluster, my thoughts are no.

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      • Brian T.
        Very Frequent User
        • September 30, 1990
        • 190

        #4
        Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

        The ignition switch connects 12v to circuits, not grounds.

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        • Joe R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1976
          • 4550

          #5
          Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

          Originally posted by Timothy Barbieri (6542)
          Joe Ray,

          Have you ever experienced the stuck temp gauge issue before. Does this ignition switch need to ground to cluster, my thoughts are no.
          Timothy,

          Yes, gauges of that vintage 50+ years can stick especially if they are not used that much from fall to spring.
          No ground is needed for the ignition switch.
          Would guess ? that it was the connector at the firewall.

          JR

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          • Frank D.
            Expired
            • December 27, 2007
            • 2703

            #6
            Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

            Once those connectors in the bulkhead plugs have their retaining tangs pushed in some they'll still tend to work back out....
            I used a tool to pop out offending pins in my 63 and CAREFULLY spread the tangs and reinserted the pin - all better.

            But yes, those gauges can certainly stick..
            Attached Files

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            • Timothy B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1983
              • 5186

              #7
              Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

              Thanks everybody, I sure appreciate the comments. I am going to run the engine and make sure the gauge works ok and take another look at the firewall plug.

              Brian, you did a very nice job on the cluster in my car.

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              • Brian T.
                Very Frequent User
                • September 30, 1990
                • 190

                #8
                Re: 1963 Water Temperature Gauge

                Tim,
                Thank you! Another item worth noting is that the terminals on 63 and 64 gauges were held by screws threaded into the plastic air core. They tend to loosen as the plastic ages and eventually crumbles. The contact to the winding is made by a little ribbon that hangs into the threaded hole and the screw will make contact. If you can check the terminal and see if it is very secure, this will likely eliminate this as a cause of the problem. Something to note for 63 and 64 owners. When connecting or disconnecting the plug on battery, fuel and temp gauges, take it very easy. If you use excessive force, this can really cause a problem with the gauge!

                Brian

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