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  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11323

    C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

    A local friend handed this used PS valve to me the other day as a gift for helping him rebuild his WCFB carburetor. The box was likely from a OTC part used to replace this. The box label is 7825636 but I'm unsure if that is what the actual part I have here is. Anything unique about this one as I'm not too familiar with these systems?

    Thanks, Rich
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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43220

    #2
    Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

    Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
    A local friend handed this used PS valve to me the other day as a gift for helping him rebuild his WCFB carburetor. The box was likely from a OTC part used to replace this. The box label is 7825636 but I'm unsure if that is what the actual part I have here is. Anything unique about this one as I'm not too familiar with these systems?

    Thanks, Rich

    Rich-------


    The valve looks to me like a GM #7816806 or GM #7819980. These were originally used on 1974-75 Corvettes. These valve really differ from the GM #7825636 only with respect to the hose guide. The hose guide on the valve pictured appears to me to be a GM #7817342 which was unique to the 1974-75 valves. The 7825636 was used in PRODUCTION for 1976-82 Corvettes and became SERVICE for all 63-75 Corvettes. The 7825636 used hose guide GM #7819613 which is configured slightly different than the 7817342. Original 1963-73 valves are not equipped with hose guides.
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    • Richard M.
      Super Moderator
      • August 31, 1988
      • 11323

      #3
      Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

      Thank you Joe for the detailed reply.

      If it is only the hose guide as a difference between what I pictured and a 7825636, could this be used as a valve for a 1963 to 1973 if the guide was simply removed? Are you saying the valve core itself didn't change from 1963 to 1975?

      I'm certain it would need a rebuild as it probably wasn't working. Regardless I think I'll save it for a future need.

      Rich

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43220

        #4
        Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

        Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
        Thank you Joe for the detailed reply.

        If it is only the hose guide as a difference between what I pictured and a 7825636, could this be used as a valve for a 1963 to 1973 if the guide was simply removed? Are you saying the valve core itself didn't change from 1963 to 1975?

        I'm certain it would need a rebuild as it probably wasn't working. Regardless I think I'll save it for a future need.

        Rich

        Rich------


        The basic valve assembly (i.e. valve + adapter) did not change from 1963 to 1982. Of course, there might have been nuance differences over the years. However, I believe there were some internal differences over the years, the primary one being the valve spring. I think this changed about 1974 or 1975. I think valves equipped with the earlier spring are identified by a "C" stamped on the end cap with the later valves identified by an "X". I can't see the stamping on your valve as it seems to be covered by thick paint or grime.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11323

          #5
          Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
          Rich------


          The basic valve assembly (i.e. valve + adapter) did not change from 1963 to 1982. Of course, there might have been nuance differences over the years. However, I believe there were some internal differences over the years, the primary one being the valve spring. I think this changed about 1974 or 1975. I think valves equipped with the earlier spring are identified by a "C" stamped on the end cap with the later valves identified by an "X". I can't see the stamping on your valve as it seems to be covered by thick paint or grime.
          Thanks Joe. I just went out and checked the end cap. After a good cleaning to bare metal, nothing at all is stamped on this one.
          Rich

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43220

            #6
            Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

            Rich------


            Attached are photos of an NOS GM #7817342 hose guide [not for sale] as used for 1974-75 Corvette power steering control valves.


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            • Mark M.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 21, 2008
              • 340

              #7
              Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

              What I've seen on many early original valves 63-69 is the X stamp cap and the two bolts holding it together are 12 point with a concave end. These don't use a shield / guide. Somewhere in the 70's the valves had a few changes. Often valves rebuilt with kits would leak again so many cars are missing originals as they would be replaced or exchanged. I've had good luck with these using a valve in good condition and rebuild with cssb inc. kits.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43220

                #8
                Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                Originally posted by Mark Mead (49600)
                What I've seen on many early original valves 63-69 is the X stamp cap and the two bolts holding it together are 12 point with a concave end. These don't use a shield / guide. Somewhere in the 70's the valves had a few changes. Often valves rebuilt with kits would leak again so many cars are missing originals as they would be replaced or exchanged. I've had good luck with these using a valve in good condition and rebuild with cssb inc. kits.

                Mark------


                Yes, I had it reversed in my earlier response. Earlier Corvette power steering control valves had an "X" stamped on the end cap. Later valves had the "C". This denoted a change in the valve spring.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Leif A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1997
                  • 3627

                  #9
                  Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Mark------


                  Yes, I had it reversed in my earlier response. Earlier Corvette power steering control valves had an "X" stamped on the end cap. Later valves had the "C". This denoted a change in the valve spring.
                  Joe,
                  What are you classifying as "later"?
                  Leif
                  '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43220

                    #10
                    Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                    Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                    Joe,
                    What are you classifying as "later"?

                    Leif------

                    I don't know, for sure. I think it was sometime in the 1974-76 period.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Leif A.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1997
                      • 3627

                      #11
                      Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Leif------

                      I don't know, for sure. I think it was sometime in the 1974-76 period.
                      Thank you sir.
                      Leif
                      '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                      Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                      • Richard M.
                        Super Moderator
                        • August 31, 1988
                        • 11323

                        #12
                        Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                        Mark, Leif, Joe, Thanks for all of this info as I've now learned much about these valves.

                        Thanks for those photos Joe as it's always good to have references. I hope you didn't have to dig too deep to find them in the "Parts Department".

                        Rich

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43220

                          #13
                          Re: C2 or C3 Power Steering Valve Identification - Possibly original 7825636 ?

                          Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
                          Mark, Leif, Joe, Thanks for all of this info as I've now learned much about these valves.

                          Thanks for those photos Joe as it's always good to have references. I hope you didn't have to dig too deep to find them in the "Parts Department".

                          Rich

                          Rich------


                          Actually, I got a "freebie" on this photo. I took it several years ago and I happened to find it when I was looking for another part's photo. So, all the digging I had to do, I did awhile ago.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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