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  • Joe S.
    Expired
    • July 31, 2001
    • 11

    C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

    What is the correct mounting for the 1967 Headlight Motor Switch? The Judging Guide states the ears are to be above the lower lip of the instrument cluster with the mounting screws flush with the lip. I have tried to mount the switch as outlined but cannot seem to get the tabs above the lip. Although the picture in the manual is not very clear it appears the ears are mounted below the lip with the screws flush with the ears. This is how I currently have it mounted and appears to be correct. I received a deduction for this and want to correct prior to the next meet.
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3627

    #2
    Re: C2 1967 Hewadlight Motor Switch

    Behind/above the lower lip is correct. It is a bit of a PITA to accomplish but that is the correct way. If the cluster has ever been out of the car or if the switch has been replaced in the past, what you currently have is often seen as it is easier to do that way...just not correct. BTW, I found out the hard way, also, during my first round of judging.
    Leif
    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1976
      • 4550

      #3
      Re: C2 1967 Hewadlight Motor Switch

      If you look at the switch mounted below the cluster from the side and then mount it correctly it is easy to see the correct mounting looks better as the curve of the switch matches the cluster.

      JR

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      • Harry S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 2002
        • 5295

        #4
        Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

        Joe, If you have A/C it's should be mounted with the tabs under the cluster unless the 67 AIM changed that.


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        • Nick C.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 31, 1998
          • 542

          #5
          Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

          Originally posted by Joe Simon (36579)
          ...Although the picture in the manual is not very clear it appears the ears are mounted below the lip with the screws flush with the ears. This is how I currently have it mounted and appears to be correct. I received a deduction for this and want to correct prior to the next meet.
          Joe, perhaps your copy of the manual has slightly washed out shadow detail. My "Control Copy" color image I 8-2 is easy to see in bright light. The mounting tabs are clearly behind the cluster lower flange. Correct mounting in order from the outside is screw, cluster housing, mounting tab in switch housing. RPO C60 cars typically use the inboard (closest to steering column) position.

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          Last edited by Nick C.; May 24, 2017, 01:45 PM.

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          • Peter M.
            Very Frequent User
            • May 30, 2013
            • 358

            #6
            Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

            Harry and Joe,
            My 67 without A/C is as Joe and Nick describe. My 67 with A/C is as you describe. Leif's car has air and it would seem he has been able to mount his above the cluster flange. I could not get mine to fit above the cluster because of the column bracing. Maybe I gave up too easy. I had another 67 A/C car years ago and it was the same. I believe both cars had the clusters removed at one time previously though. My 67 A.I.M. is not handy but I will see if it shows anything.
            Kind regards

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            • Leif A.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1997
              • 3627

              #7
              Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

              Here's a picture of mine...
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              Leif
              '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
              Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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              • Joe R.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1976
                • 4550

                #8
                Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                The contour of the instrument bezel does not change because of the addition of AC. Now the bezel is cut out on the inside closest to the column when AC is added so the switch will fit. When AC is added the switch has to be moved because the left AC duct distribution is in the way of the switch.
                If you put the switch with the tangs on the outside of the instrument bezel it does not fit correctly. Notice How Lief's switch fits correct as does the picture that Nick provided.

                JR

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                • Brian M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 1839

                  #9
                  Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                  I believe this AIM page cancels the removal of the cluster tab removal needed for the inboard location on 67 A/C cars. Credit John Hinckley
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                  • Nick C.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 31, 1998
                    • 542

                    #10
                    Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                    Originally posted by Brian McHale (28809)
                    I believe this AIM page cancels the removal of the cluster tab removal needed for the inboard location on 67 A/C cars. Credit John Hinckley
                    I believe that AIM page is from a 66 or earlier and is cancelled as 67 did not have vent cable controls as illustrated. Original 67 cluster housings typically had two cutouts for the switch pre cast. You can see the second one on the very right side of the image I posted above.

                    Search the archives... I'm certain this issue has been beat to death a number of times.

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11323

                      #11
                      Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                      Here's a shot from the rear clearly showing the intended configuration with the switch housing tabs above the cluster flange and the 2 flatnuts.

                      I typically add a dab of 3M strip caulk(dum-dum) to the ends of each flatnut to help hold them in place to the tabs.



                      If the car is Radio equipped, there will be a Capacitor mounted on the backside for the Battery Gauge. You MUST move or remove this Capacitor to get at the inboard flatnut to hold it in place with a tool or your finger to get the screw started.


                      This shows how the profile of the switch mates to the cluster.
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                      • Peter M.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 30, 2013
                        • 358

                        #12
                        Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                        Joe,
                        Thanks for the reply.
                        Kind regards

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                        • Howard W.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1998
                          • 121

                          #13
                          Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                          Joe

                          Nick and Rich have provided excellent pictures of the correct installation of the switch. Keep working at it you will get it

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                          • Brian M.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • February 1, 1997
                            • 1839

                            #14
                            Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                            I don't see anywhere in the AIM C60 section that moves the switch inboard. Are both locations accepted without issue in judging?

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                            • Leif A.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • August 31, 1997
                              • 3627

                              #15
                              Re: C2 1967 Headlight Motor Switch

                              Originally posted by Brian McHale (28809)
                              I don't see anywhere in the AIM C60 section that moves the switch inboard. Are both locations accepted without issue in judging?
                              It's in the '67 AIM Brian. It's shown on a page with the word "cancelled" stamped across it but the cancellation is in regards to the vent cable knobs which were moved for '67. When I get home, I will post a pic for you. I don't know how you would be able to get the headlamp rollover switch to not interfere with the A/C ducting in the left hand (without A/C) location.
                              Leif
                              '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                              Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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