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  • David D.
    Frequent User
    • November 30, 1989
    • 74

    1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

    Wondering of any of the experts out there could evaluate this engine code stamping on a 1972 LT1. See first attachment. I don't think these are typical broach marks, and the "1" in the engine code stamp looks like a lower case "L."
    The second attachment is from what is believed to be an original 1972 base engine, and the "1" is a different font.

    Thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide.

    Dave
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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5132

    #2
    Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

    I am less thrilled than you are with the supposed originality of the second pad. A closer shot would be better, but the alignment of the letters certainly looks ntfp.

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    • David D.
      Frequent User
      • November 30, 1989
      • 74

      #3
      Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

      Mike - thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I do not have any higher resolution photos. What do you think about the "1" font in the LT1 stamp? Was this ever typical?

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      • Mark E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • March 31, 1993
        • 4496

        #4
        Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

        It's not uncommon for the number "1" to be stamped as a lower case "l".

        I've seen many like this and the judging guide even states this.

        Others more qualified can comment about the other features of the pad and stamping.
        Mark Edmondson
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        • Patrick H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • November 30, 1989
          • 11600

          #5
          Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

          It's not just the I, but the distance of the I to the C appears too close.
          The resolution is not good enough to determine how good the broach marks are compared to factory.
          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
          71 "deer modified" coupe
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          • Patrick B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1985
            • 1985

            #6
            Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

            The 72 base engine is certainly original, but I have never seen a straight vertical line used as a "1" as in the LT-1. The broach marks are also suspect. I would bet against it.

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            • Mike E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 28, 1975
              • 5132

              #7
              Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

              Patrick,
              Please explain to me how you can say the 72 block stamping is "certainly original"?
              Thanks,
              Mike

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              • Patrick B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1985
                • 1985

                #8
                Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                Patrick,
                Please explain to me how you can say the 72 block stamping is "certainly original"?
                Thanks,
                Mike
                The 2 and the 3 are distinctive characters that are typically found on early 70's Flint engines. The vin characters that are visible look good, and the grain looks good.

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                • Mike E.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 28, 1975
                  • 5132

                  #9
                  Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                  I'm not trying to be difficult. I am familiar with the 2 and 3 in that time period. Also conversant with broach marks. Also aware of professional restampers with original broach machine and correct 2s and 3s. I'm trying to understand how anyone can say "certainly original". I can understand TFP, or "appears correct"

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                  • Patrick B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1985
                    • 1985

                    #10
                    Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                    Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                    I'm not trying to be difficult. I am familiar with the 2 and 3 in that time period. Also conversant with broach marks. Also aware of professional restampers with original broach machine and correct 2s and 3s. I'm trying to understand how anyone can say "certainly original". I can understand TFP, or "appears correct"
                    It's my opinion and worth every cent. I understand the opinions you actually pay for come without any explanation at all.

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                    • John D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • June 30, 1991
                      • 874

                      #11
                      Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                      The last 4 digits of the engine stamp in the first pic sum it up nicely...

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                      • Joe R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1976
                        • 4547

                        #12
                        Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                        Originally posted by Patrick Boyd (9110)
                        It's my opinion and worth every cent. I understand the opinions you actually pay for come without any explanation at all.
                        Amen, the authority has spoken!

                        JR

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                        • Sal C.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 30, 1984
                          • 430

                          #13
                          Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                          I've posted some 1972 LT1 stamps before. I'd be more suspect of CKY stamps that actually were straight and in a uniform distance from the date.

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                          • Roy V.
                            Expired
                            • April 8, 2008
                            • 296

                            #14
                            Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                            Don't know if this helps any my July build 1972 pad



                            if it confuses anything, let me know and i'll delete it

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                            • Blair K.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • September 27, 2012
                              • 170

                              #15
                              Re: 1972 Engine Code stamp - authentic?

                              Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
                              The last 4 digits of the engine stamp in the first pic sum it up nicely...

                              I agree - that's funny.

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