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  • Steven B.
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    • April 11, 2012
    • 233

    1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

    rd car. Anyone have information on this?
    Steve
  • Russ S.
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    • April 30, 1982
    • 2163

    #2
    Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

    Reprints don't have the CN card.

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    • Ara G.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 31, 2008
      • 1108

      #3
      Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

      Also the ribbon in the woman's hair on the cover is much much darker in reprints and reproductions compared to originals. ARA

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      • Dave S.
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        • August 31, 1992
        • 2930

        #4
        Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

        Originally posted by Russ Steinhaus (5540)
        Reprints don't have the CN card.
        Russ,
        I'm not sure what you define as a reprint but the majority of non original Owner's manuals I see are what I would call a re-issue. They were printed by the original printer, Helm, Inc, but were re-issued at some time after the originals for use in the Chevrolet parts departments as a service replacement item. These re-issue manuals were reprinted using some antiquated process that did not produce clear photography and when held side by side with an original are easily detectable. Many of these re-issue OM's have Corvette News cards from what I have seen. As you say it has been my experience that all original Corvette OM's did have Corvette News cards.

        Steve,
        It sounds to me like you have some sort of put together manual. I'm pretty sure that original manuals all had their pages in the correct order. I suppose something could have happened during the printing process but I've never seen or heard of it. The second edition is correct for your car however the large majority of the Helm re-issue 1967 OM's were second editions, so yours could be one of those that was altered for some unknown reason. Lots of things happen with these manuals. By removing the staples, pages and covers can be interchanged.

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        • Steven B.
          Very Frequent User
          • April 11, 2012
          • 233

          #5
          Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

          I looked at the binding and it looks too clean to have been taken apart. It's in very good condition and has been in the plastic envelope which does look like it has some time on it. The manual has no obvious wear but evidence of some very minor wear, and does not look to have been consulted very much, as the book lays very flat when closed. I didn't notice any thing unusual until I was looking for information about the radio and antenna. That's when I noticed the page order. I'm just wondering if it had a mishap in printing. I originally thought someone had torn a couple of pages out until I discovered that they weren't missing, just out of order.

          Steve

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          • Dave S.
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            • August 31, 1992
            • 2930

            #6
            Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

            Originally posted by Steven Blanchard (54804)
            I looked at the binding and it looks too clean to have been taken apart. It's in very good condition and has been in the plastic envelope which does look like it has some time on it. The manual has no obvious wear but evidence of some very minor wear, and does not look to have been consulted very much, as the book lays very flat when closed. I didn't notice any thing unusual until I was looking for information about the radio and antenna. That's when I noticed the page order. I'm just wondering if it had a mishap in printing. I originally thought someone had torn a couple of pages out until I discovered that they weren't missing, just out of order.

            Steve
            Steve,
            Anything is possible. I have just never seen or heard of it. It is possible to remove and reinsert the staples. I'd be interested to find out if it's an real original.

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            • Pancho T.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 31, 1993
              • 238

              #7
              Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

              I have six original '67 owners manuals both 1st and second editions. In each of them all of the pages are in correct numerical order.

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              • Enzo C.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 12, 2012
                • 536

                #8
                Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                Maybe the Chinese numbers are in a different sequence...
                Enzo Colosimo
                Ncrs Ontario Chapter Chairman 🇨🇦
                ENZ-Z06/67

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                • Jim D.
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                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 2885

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                  Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                  Steve,
                  Anything is possible. I have just never seen or heard of it. It is possible to remove and reinsert the staples. I'd be interested to find out if it's an real original.
                  Yup. My 1st edition of Noland Adams Vol. 2 has several pages that are bound out of order.

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                  • Kenneth B.
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                    • August 31, 1984
                    • 2091

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                    Am I correct in saying all reprints were second edition?
                    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                    • Leif A.
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                      • August 31, 1997
                      • 3658

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                      Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                      Am I correct in saying all reprints were second edition?
                      Ken,
                      No. There were actually two different editions. I'm sure, depending on the year model, it was at different times based on running changes. The '67 owner's manual second edition is dated April 1967.
                      Last edited by Leif A.; February 28, 2017, 04:55 PM.
                      Leif
                      '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                      Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                      • Kenneth B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1984
                        • 2091

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                        Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                        Ken,
                        No. There were actually two different editions. I'm sure, depending on the year model, it was at different times based on running changes. The '67 owner's manual second edition is dated April 1967.
                        I understand that as I have a few of each. I was asking about REPRINTS as the first editions are worth a lot more than the second.
                        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                        What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                        • Dave S.
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                          • August 31, 1992
                          • 2930

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                          Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                          I understand that as I have a few of each. I was asking about REPRINTS as the first editions are worth a lot more than the second.
                          As I mentioned above I think the word reprint is confusing. The large majority of the OM's I see are Helm re-issues as opposed to reprints that are reprinted by anyone who wants to. Some reprints are done with the permission of GM and some are not. I have seen reprints and re-issues with Corvette News cards so the presence of a Card does not necessarily make it an original. The majority of Helm re-issue 1967 OM's are second edition from my experience. I think the reason for that is they were printed by Helm after April 1967 for use as a service part. That's not to say that all first editions are originals but the majority are from what I have seen. The presence of a "stub" only with the card torn off is a good start in determining if the OM is original, but the photography is the key factor.

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                            #14
                            Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                            agree with Mr Strickland

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                            • Gerard F.
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                              • June 30, 2004
                              • 3806

                              #15
                              Re: 1967 Owner's Manual question, page order

                              Steve,

                              I have my tattered original Owners Manual for a late June 67. It is a 2nd edition April 67, Part No 3901022. It even has my key codes hand written on the back of the front cover. All of the pages are in order.

                              The staples are rusted and the center pages 31-34 is loose. It is noted that the Helm tear off and send in page is still there and is of the same paper as other pages. Not a card.

                              The pictures in mine are very vivid.
                              Jerry Fuccillo
                              1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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