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  • Hugh G.
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    • January 13, 2015
    • 64

    1964 FI Fuel Leak Repair

    From John D on another post I have running. "Hugh, The '63 FI shop manual is poorly written concerning this leak. They tell you that the fuel meter can be removed on the car without taking the FI unit off. Really a bunch of incorrect info.

    Remove the fuel meter and the spider as one assembly. Then when it's on the workbench you can work on it like a gentleman. Remove the spider from the fuel meter. First take a pic of it so when you re-install it you have the spider at the right angle.
    To assembly you do the reverse. Install the fuel meter and spider as an assembly.

    Forgot this very important step. Test this assembly by flow testing Before you put in on the plenum. Reason being is after you get the whole unit back to together and you have an o'ring leak you want to kill yourself as you just blew hours of labor. John"


    Thanks. Because my unit ran so well, when it runs, particularly with the temporary replacement coil I'm hoping not to have to do a rebuild just now. The return line leak appears to be fixed! I was able to access the fitting and it was so loose I thought I was turning it the wrong way. It became nice and tight after about 3/4 of a turn. My screw-up from a number of years ago. That's the good new.

    The bad news is a have some gas seeping from the pump housing to fuel meter gasket. Nothing like the earlier leaks but I will have to fix it before driving the car regularly. Background: After carefully putting the 5 screw from the high pressure pump in a separate container and moving it away from my under the hood, Can remember what I was doing but later I knocked the container off the shelf and the screws when everywhere?!@#. I did not know that one of the 5 screws that held the housing was shorter. I spent more time looking for the fifth screw than I did pulling the pump. So I went through my surplus screws and find on the matched the other 4 I had. I wish I would learn to read the shop manual instructions before I finishing a job. I have the rest of my life but always taking short cuts.

    Finally, my question to you John, does your FI screw kit include a set of screws the hold the pump housing? If yes great, if no how much shorter is the shorter one? Thanks in advance. Hugh
  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11317

    #2
    Re: 1964 FI Fuel Leak Repair

    Hugh, Until John replies, here are a few pics of a '61 pump. I recall I got a kit from John. I think it includes those screws.
    Attached Files

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    • Jim L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 30, 1979
      • 1806

      #3
      Re: 1964 FI Fuel Leak Repair

      Hugh, a leak between the pump body and the fuel meter casting almost always means the fuel meter mounting surface is warped. This is a common problem brought about by an annoying trait of the pot metal used in the fuel meter casting: Pot metal will *always* creep in such a manner as to relieve the applied stress.

      Where does the applied stress originate?

      It comes from the 5 screws which secure the pump. The stress they create causes the areas around the screw holes to become elevated beyond the gasket's ability to compensate and seal.

      The correct solution is to lap the gasket surface on a piece of sand paper on a surface plate. This process requires compleat disassembly of the fuel meter, though. A bandaid fix which sometimes works for a while is to double gasket the pump.

      Good luck,
      Jim

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      • Hugh G.
        Expired
        • January 13, 2015
        • 64

        #4
        Re: 1964 FI Fuel Leak Repair

        Looking good. Just fixed and started my 63 and the FI unit not leaking!! Helps to have the correct screws. I'm ordering the correct TI coil so I think I will wait on it before a formal road test. Also my 82 is in the way with a fuel problem!@#?? I ran the engine up to 3 or 4 grand without a leak so I'm hopeful. Thanks again to every ones input. Hugh

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        • John D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 30, 1979
          • 5507

          #5
          Re: 1964 FI Fuel Leak Repair

          '57 to '65 FI hi-pressure pump mounting screws. Forgetting the finish for a moment. Just the sizes.
          Slotted fillster head. 5 screws to hold the pump on. The SHORT screw is a 10/32 x 1/2". The other four screws are 10/32 x 5/8".
          Don't tighten this screws until they are ready to snap off. This twists the fuel bowl as Jim Lockwood said.
          I use my granite surface plate (not anything else in the world) with various grades of sandpaper on the surface plate (machinist plate) to lap/Sand the area flat on the fuel meter bowl where the pump goes on. EVery '58 to '65 fuel bowl that I have ever seen in my life is warped here. Everyone.
          Make sure you don't put the gasket on backwards. It's very easy to do if you aren't' looking with both eyes. John

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          • Hugh G.
            Expired
            • January 13, 2015
            • 64

            #6

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