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  • Ara G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 31, 2008
    • 1108

    Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

    Hey guys,
    A little bit ago I drafted a post regarding my attempts to save the original headliner in my Silver 67 coupe. Please look it up....I was told by everyone (top level restorers, friends, upholstery shops - all of whom are GOOD friends) that it could not be done. Some said the oils in the headliner from years of prior owner's using Armor All or equivalent products would not allow any glue to adhere to the headliner material to adhere to the foam. Others said I could not safely remove the old, dried up foam from the backside of the headliner material to get a clean "mating" surface. Others told me they didn't want to tackle the job. Well, I removed the original, sagging headliner and carefully inspected it. It was stretched in places, shrunk in places, nasty on the backside and had a wonderful slime to it notwithstanding the fact that my garage is air conditioned.
    In my prior post I detailed that I bought a new backing board and foam from Al Knoch. I talked with a fantastic upholstery place in Fort Lauderdale Florida who does outstanding work. They didn't want to do it but I convinced them to try when I explained that the car was completely original, save for one repaint in 1983. The entire interior was original, so i really wanted them to try. I personally removed the original foam from the headliner. I cleaned gently the top side of the headliner. Dropped the foam, backing board and headliner to the shop. I spoke with them often. They said the Al Knoch foam was too thin as well as not dense enough to hold it. They had thicker and denser foam that would still look flush in the roof in the car. They stretched and massaged the headliner and DID IT. I picked it up and was incredibly pleased. I installed it back in the car it was born in a week ago and am tickled. It looks fantastic. As you can see, i can't take credit for it as i personally didn't do the majority of the work, but i couldn't be happier. Reproduction headliner from Al KNoch my work, $234, shipping $45. Gas to and from uphonlstery shop, $25, pride in knowing the original headliner is back in the car it was born in on December 21, 1966 PRICELESS. I hope this post encourages some of you out there whose headliners are having issue to NOT throw them out and listen to the downers. It can be done...and after all our cars deserve at least the effort to save it.....
    Happy New Year to all my friends in the NCRS.......Regards,.....ARA
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3627

    #2
    Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

    Congratulations on your perseverance Ara. I not only remember your original post, but asking you about the headliner at the Lone Star Regional back in October. I know how important this was for you and happy to hear of your results. It will be nice to have a follow-up in the future as to how the repair is holding up. BTW, did you ever get around to opening up that distributor and changing the points?? All the best.
    Leif
    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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    • Russ S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1982
      • 2162

      #3
      Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

      Great job Ara!!

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      • Ara G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 31, 2008
        • 1108

        #4
        Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

        Thanks guys. Leif, I was in Lakeland this past weekend at the Florida Regional so I have not had a chance to pull the cap. I will do the wires, etc and keep all posted. Thanks again. Be well my friend...ARA

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        • Tim G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 1, 1990
          • 1374

          #5
          Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

          Ara, that's super. I've still got a convertible headliner from an old Corvette in the garage. I hung on to it just in case there's a chance i can get it back in.

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          • Richard M.
            Super Moderator
            • August 31, 1988
            • 11323

            #6
            Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

            Ara, Nice job at saving it. Perseverance paid off. Good for you. I remember your original post HERE.

            And thanks for sharing the details to show it can be done as I have never done one all will certainly refer to your posts if I ever do.

            Now all you need to do is take a few pictures of that awesome car and the restored original headliner area and post them here for us to see.

            Rich

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            • Neal K.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 31, 2007
              • 303

              #7
              Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

              Ara,
              Great story. Congratulations. No better feeling than the pride you feel when you achieve your objective with a good result.
              Would you mind sharing the contact information for the Fort Lauderdale upholstery shop. Do you have confidence in their ability to handle any corvette upholstery work?
              Neal

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              • Ara G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 31, 2008
                • 1108

                #8
                Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

                Thanks guys. Rich, i may have to email you the pics to post for me...i am still in the dark ages on posting pics.....Was GREAT seeing you Rich at the Regional....Wish we had more time to sit and have a cup of coffee together...Neil, give me a shout regarding the shop. Tim, thanks! ARA

                The difficulties arise when attempting to adhere the original headliner to new foam. Glue consistency, coverage, etc factor in. Too thin and it bleeds through or saturates the foam (am guessing that's why the shop decided to use denser foam so it doesn't soak in). They said i did a great job carefully cleaning the old foam from the back of the headliner. Living in Florida, 30 minutes in the sun warms it up enough to where is is malleable. It looks super back in the car. Fits like a glove...
                More to Leif's point, i will keep all posted on how the glue and liner hold up over time.
                Regards
                ARA

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11323

                  #9
                  Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

                  Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
                  Thanks guys. Rich, i may have to email you the pics to post for me...
                  ....Regards
                  ARA
                  Nice to see you Ara, even for a minute as it's better than not at all.

                  Feel free to email anything you want at any time and I'll put them up for you.

                  Rich

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                  • Ara G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 31, 2008
                    • 1108

                    #10
                    Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

                    Rich, pics sent. Thanks my friend!

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11323

                      #11
                      Re: Original Headliner saved - Part 2.....success....

                      Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
                      Rich, pics sent. Thanks my friend!
                      Here you go.....What a gorgeous car both inside and out!









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