65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

[John C.]

Anyone had any success with finding the correct outer door glass wiper AND screws for a 65 Vert. that attach the stainless molding to the door ?
I bought the outer wipers and screws from LIC, they look nice but the little black screws that go through the wiper holes (4) to attach the wiper and the stainless mold to the door are too small. They are smaller in diameter than the hole in the wiper and fall through. I'm wondering if I have the right screws. They are very small black screws, phillip head, and the head of the screw is only slightly larger than the threaded shank of the screw. I found the same screws on Paragon, but they appear to be silver in color ( stainless). So, what color are they supposed to be ? And has anyone found screws that will attach the mold to the door without falling through the hole ?
JC

[Russ S.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

I believe they were a shiney screw.

[John C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

That's what Corvette Central shows. So, the outer rubber wipe attaches to the stainless trim piece with staples, then, both pieces are attached to the door with silver ( shiney) screws ???????

[John C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

So, what are those little black screws for ?
JC

[Russ S.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

That is correct John.

That's what Corvette Central shows. So, the outer rubber wipe attaches to the stainless trim piece with staples, then, both pieces are attached to the door with silver ( shiney) screws ???????

[Russ S.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

What is the part number of these black screws you have?

So, what are those little black screws for ?
JC

[Jim S.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

These are the screws from Paragon. 11180K-10

https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-348961-door-glass-molding-screw-kit.aspx

[Kim C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

the screws are to install the wipe/metal assembly onto the door (LIC#42-30D)
(the newer black / smaller head sits flush with the rubber and doesn't fall thru the metal - C/Cent said this was more correct undersized head than the silver ones we used to sell)

63-64 the rubber to metal is attached with staples (lic#42-32)
and
65-67 the rubber to metal is attached with rivets (#42-30C)

-LIC

[John L.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

Sirs
The shiny stainless screws look correct. The rubber was attached to the molding with staples between each screw then the assembly attached to the door with the screws. You could add weather strip adhesive to supplement an attempt to replicate the staples.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

My 65 original paint/interior has small screws that look a rust color so I think they would not be SS screws. It also has staples in the door panels not rivets.

[John C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

Thank Kim. I have the small black screws you are referring to that came from LIC. They are too small and the head of the screw falls through several of the holes in the wipe and will also pull through the stainless mould piece. I'm fairly certain the car has the original stainless mould, which has staple holes in it from the original wipe which must have been replaced some years ago. That being said, it appears that maybe some time later in the 65 production era, GM switched from using rivets and began using staples. My car is a May 10th production car, 18494.
BTW, do you know if the staples pull through from the door side, or are they installed with the crown of the staple showing from the rubber side ?>
JC

[John C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

I saw those listed as what was supposed to be used Jeff, also saw the little black small head screws shown also. There appears to be some confusion as to which screw is ( or was ) supposed to be correct. Per the pics of the screws, it appears the stainless silver ( shiney) screws have a slightly larger head, which wouldn't pull through like the small black screws do. The little black screws would be much more "less obvious" in appearance "IF" they would work correctly.
JC

[John C.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

I think you are correct Kenneth. I'm pretty sure my stainless moulding had never been removed since production. I went ahead and removed the window glass and the vent assy. so I could access the front screw that attaches the mould to the door and the screw was exactly as you described, very small headed screw that was somewhat rusty, and appeared to be the original screw.
I went ahead and ordered everything from C-Central, the wipe, staples and the small black screws, so now, if it doesn't work properly, at least all the parts came from the same supplier. I'll have to contact LIC and try to return the wipes and screws sine there is apparently some issues with production of the outer wipe having too large of mounting holes for the screws they sell.
JC

[Ronald L.]

Re: 65 convertible outer door glass rubber wiper / screws

I am pulling apart an early AOS 1966...absolutley no one has been in the doors with the watershield and tape offs, thumb sealer and all never been touched.

Couple points - these outer glass seals are stapled - Not rivited as the catalogues say.

Second the screws are all black, and suprisingly all but one came out perfectly and inside is very pristine, no rust at all ont he left, slight on the right side.

My question is - how could Paragon and others get it wrong?

[Gary B.]