69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

[Greg L.]

I was wonder what the proper finish should be for these retainers and the screws that hold them to the lock/latch assys? I'm guessing a black oxide or phosphate would be right for the retainers and possible the same or plain zinc for the screws. What do you guys think?

Thanks

[Joe L.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

I was wonder what the proper finish should be for these retainers and the screws that hold them to the lock/latch assys? I'm guessing a black oxide or phosphate would be right for the retainers and possible the same or plain zinc for the screws. What do you guys think?

Thanks

Greg-----


The retainers were black phosphate. The screws were dull zinc plated. Yours look like they've been painted black.

[Greg L.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Thanks Joe. I appreciate your advice and yes they were painted black.

[Gary B.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Here is a picture of a 6,000 mile 69.
Gary Bosselman

[Greg L.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Hey thanks Gary, that pic really helps too!

I was wondering if anyone could comment on the fasteners and what looks to be dimpled washers that are holding the compartment frame to the body. Are these typical-early-late production? My car didn't have these so I'm now wondering if it should...

[Gary B.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

The black interior picture is from an October 2nd build 1969 (black interior). So I know 1968 at least through the first of October used this type of screw. When the change was made I do not know. Maybe others can chime in and we can pin-point it down closer.

the other picture is from a late 1969, October 16th build date (Saddle interior). These are pictures that will go into the next revision of the 1968-1969 Judging manual.

Hope this helps.

Gary Bosselman

[Terry M.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

The black interior picture is from an October 2nd build 1969 (black interior). So I know 1968 at least through the first of October used this type of screw. When the change was made I do not know. Maybe others can chime in and we can pin-point it down closer.

the other picture is from a late 1969, October 16th build date (Saddle interior). These are pictures that will go into the next revision of the 1968-1969 Judging manual.

Hope this helps.

Gary Bosselman

FWIW: The black interior has the 1968 style spring-loaded door (Note the end of the spring on the far left of the picture). The Saddle interior has no such spring and is the 1969-style pull the loop door. That change in operation of the door(s) may, or may not, have something to do with the different fasteners.

BTW: Nice photos

[Patrick H.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

BTW: Nice photos

It's a nice car, as you know. Gary has an excellent subject to use as an example.

[Russ S.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

The screws on the saddle int. pic were used thru part of the 1973 year until they changed to the plastic doors. After that the hinge screw became a black hex head self tapping hex head with a larger captive flat washer. The chrome philips lower screw with the silly looking chrome washer continued for at least a few years after 75.I don't know for how long.

The black interior picture is from an October 2nd build 1969 (black interior). So I know 1968 at least through the first of October used this type of screw. When the change was made I do not know. Maybe others can chime in and we can pin-point it down closer.

the other picture is from a late 1969, October 16th build date (Saddle interior). These are pictures that will go into the next revision of the 1968-1969 Judging manual.

Hope this helps.

Gary Bosselman

[Russ S.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Gary, I am surprised to see the two different lower hinge screw styles in your pictures. Is that the way some 69s were?

The black interior picture is from an October 2nd build 1969 (black interior). So I know 1968 at least through the first of October used this type of screw. When the change was made I do not know. Maybe others can chime in and we can pin-point it down closer.

the other picture is from a late 1969, October 16th build date (Saddle interior). These are pictures that will go into the next revision of the 1968-1969 Judging manual.

Hope this helps.

Gary Bosselman

[Russ S.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

I re-read your post and got from it that apparently 68 and early 69 had the black captive washer phillips head screw shown for the lower hinge.

Gary, I am surprised to see the two different lower hinge screw styles in your pictures. Is that the way some 69s were?

[Greg L.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

I'd like to add that my Jan 31 built 69 also had the black captive washer philips head screws on the lower hinge. My doors also have the pull straps AND as you can see the spring assist.

I was now wondering what you guys think about these rivets? These actually are the style that it had when I first restored it back in the 80s and was able to find some extras in case I ever had to re-rivet them. I know they are not the round head that it's Gary's pics but there was no indication this part of the car was ever messed with since 1969 so I'd say they are correct for my car.

Has anyone ever seen these flat head brass ones used or would this be considered anomaly?

Also should they be black? I don't remember if they were black or not when I first drilled them out.

[Greg L.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Hey guys I was wondering if someone would be able to shed some light on my brass rivet question. From what I know about this part of the car I'd put money on them being original but I'd like to hear what you guys think about them.

Thanks.

[John C.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Greg

Rivets on my 68 look to be aluminum. Very similar to the body rivets. Visible side is painted frame color.

If the rivets you drilled out were orientated in the direction you show in your picture, they were probably replaced before you bought the car. Chevrolet specs call for the flange head side of the rivet to be against the fiberglass/plastic. The disrupted side of the rivet would go against the metal piece or a metal backing plate.

John

[John C.]

Re: 69 Rear Storage Compartment Lock/Latch Retainer Finish

Greg

I looked further at the 69 AIM and and the rivet used on the storage compartment hinge is the same part number 3828548 as the rivets used to hold some other body reinforcements. See AIM Section 1 Bolt Weld page B4 for an example.

John