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  • Walter F.
    Expired
    • October 22, 2006
    • 373

    New Thunderbird

    I heard rumors Ford is thinking about bring back Corvettes original competitor the Thunderbird. Lets hope they keep it as what it did its best as. A luxury personal car that seats four. The last mess was a disaster. Based on sales, I think there is only room for one American sports car, as the people at Dodge found out. If Ford does their homework, I think Ford can have a shot if they keep it as a four seating vehicle to compete with Mercedes and Lexus. As long as they do not try and re-badge a Taurus or Fusion.
  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7121

    #2
    Re: New Thunderbird

    If it ain't like my wife's beloved Baby Bird '56, Thunderbird Blue with two seats, Continental kit, wire wheels, in a compact, beautiful design and a big V8, not interested.
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    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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    • Jim D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 1985
      • 2884

      #3
      Re: New Thunderbird

      Having restored a 57 T-Bird for my wife, I have a soft spot for them. The previous re-creation was a disaster. Maybe the new one will be better. Remember, it took Chevrolet from 53 to 61 to sell as many Corvettes as Ford sold 55-57 T-Birds.

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43219

        #4
        Re: New Thunderbird

        Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
        If it ain't like my wife's beloved Baby Bird '56, Thunderbird Blue with two seats, Continental kit, wire wheels, in a compact, beautiful design and a big V8, not interested.
        Michael------


        Big V-8? A 292 cid with 202 horsepower or a 312 cid with 215 or 225 horsepower?
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43219

          #5
          Re: New Thunderbird

          Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
          Having restored a 57 T-Bird for my wife, I have a soft spot for them. The previous re-creation was a disaster. Maybe the new one will be better. Remember, it took Chevrolet from 53 to 61 to sell as many Corvettes as Ford sold 55-57 T-Birds.

          Jim------


          I didn't think the most recent incarnation of the Thunderbird was a bad car. In fact, I think it was pretty faithful in concept and design to the 1955-57 model which it was designed to emulate. This was always intended by Ford to be a very limited production vehicle and they only intended to produce it for the number of years it was produced. It had a finite life span from the get-go. I think it was intended by Ford to be a "halo" vehicle.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Walter F.
            Expired
            • October 22, 2006
            • 373

            #6
            Re: New Thunderbird

            Lets be honest, Ford is in the business like everyone else, to make money. They had hoped the two seating retro bird would of been a hit. 68,000 units in 4 years could be only considered a flop. For some reason two seating American luxury sports cars do not sell as in the 1950's. The Cadillac XLR is proof of that. If Ford is smart, and this new Thunderbird is a real car, they need to go after the German, Japanese market of high performance coupes as the Mercedes C63, Lexus RCF, Cadillac ATS Coupe and BMW models. It MUST seat 4, have at least 500 horsepower and the latest finger tip luxury items available. Its style must be racy and elegant as the 1950's and 1960's models were. Otherwise I hope Ford never lets it off the drawing board.

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7121

              #7
              Re: New Thunderbird

              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
              Michael------


              Big V-8? A 292 cid with 202 horsepower or a 312 cid with 215 or 225 horsepower?
              Joe, that was bigger, or just as big, than any other Ford had, and bigger than the puny 265 any Chevy had in '56.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Gene M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1985
                • 4232

                #8
                Re: New Thunderbird

                Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                If it ain't like my wife's beloved Baby Bird '56, Thunderbird Blue with two seats, Continental kit, wire wheels, in a compact, beautiful design and a big V8, not interested.
                Well said. But remember the come back bird? It was a big joke. The closest thing Ford has to being a nice car is the Mustang.

                Ford should just stay away from any use of the word Thunderbird. It seems they don't have any idea of what it once was in '55,'56, & '57.

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1976
                  • 4550

                  #9
                  Re: New Thunderbird

                  Was not the Mustang made of recycled tin cans? Heard that from one of those pony people.

                  And yes, this is the CORVETTE technical board!

                  JR

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                  • William F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 9, 2009
                    • 1363

                    #10
                    Re: New Thunderbird

                    270 hp if 312 had the 2X4 bbl carb setup like my '57. Good for the day. But it's the fact that '55-'57 T Birds, like at least some of our Corvettes, especially mid years, are classics, not they they can compete with today's cars in hp and performance that makes them desirable. Most of today's high performance cars will be just used cars in a few years.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43219

                      #11
                      Re: New Thunderbird

                      Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                      270 hp if 312 had the 2X4 bbl carb setup like my '57. Good for the day. But it's the fact that '55-'57 T Birds, like at least some of our Corvettes, especially mid years, are classics, not they they can compete with today's cars in hp and performance that makes them desirable. Most of today's high performance cars will be just used cars in a few years.

                      William------


                      The 270 HP was 1957 only, not used for 1956.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Duke W.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • January 1, 1993
                        • 15667

                        #12
                        Re: New Thunderbird

                        Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
                        Was not the Mustang made of recycled tin cans? Heard that from one of those pony people. JR
                        The original '64 Mustang was built on the Falcon platform.

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43219

                          #13
                          Re: New Thunderbird

                          Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                          The original '64 Mustang was built on the Falcon platform.

                          Duke------


                          Just like the original Camaro was built on a Chevy II platform.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Paul J.
                            Expired
                            • September 9, 2008
                            • 2091

                            #14
                            Re: New Thunderbird

                            We have a lot to thank the early Thunderbird for. If Ford had not overreacted and jumped into the two seat market, the Corvette would have probably withered on the vine after the sales debacle of 54.

                            i.e. the Corvette was saved by the competition from Ford.

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                            • William F.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 9, 2009
                              • 1363

                              #15
                              Re: New Thunderbird

                              I know that Joe. As I said, mine IS a '57 (realize Michael's is a '56, no 2x4 option that year.)

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